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To: plangent
This “genius” obviously did a poor job...

In the belief and eyes of Muslims — birth to a Muslim father, makes Obama a Muslim.

Muslims throughout the world CONTINUE to think of him as a Muslim..

His relatives in Kenya have described him as a Muslim.

Only Obama declares himself a “Christian”— and we've all seen the “Christian” church he elected to join.....

Sorry "genius" — Obama is demonstrably far more Muslim than Christian.

95 posted on 06/28/2008 9:07:34 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat; expatguy
This "genius" is xenophbic, she believes that since the proof that Obama was raised a Muslim wasn't made in American based English language digital media that the charges are "smears" and "untruths". The claims, the proof, the first hand interviews with Obama's classmates at the religious school were all made in Indonesia, some of the articles are not readily available in digital form, and she partisan attack dog at Princeton was unable to comprehend that there are people outside the United States who might have valid information on Obama's childhood upbringing outside the United States.

 

Tracking Down Obama in Indonesia - Part 4
"After two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school, Obama was sent by his mother back to her parents' home so that he could attend Hawaii's esteemed Punahou Academy..."
Salon.com - The New Face of the Democratic Party and America

The truth is that Barack Hussein Obama aka "Barry Soetoro" first registered for school at the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968. He then attended Asisi Primary School for 3 years before finally transfering to Besuki Primary School.

Unlike the Franciscan Asisi Primary School, Besuki would have at the time had compulsory religious classes.
We are still left with the question as to why Obama's mother would have sent her son to live in Hawaii. Surely anyone who has a child would find it hard to imagine how a mother could send her son overseas at such a young age to live with his grandparents.


"I was not raised in a particularly religious household, as undoubtedly many in the audience were. My father, who returned to Kenya when I was just two, was born Muslim but as an adult became an atheist. My mother, whose parents were non-practicing Baptists and Methodists, was probably one of the most spiritual and kindest people I've ever known, but grew up with a healthy skepticism of organized religion herself. As a consequence, so did I.”


Barack Hussein Obama - 28 June 2006

This story never seemed to make much sense, I always wondered why Ann Dunham would have remarried to another Muslim man from Indonesia after her first marriage to a Muslim from Kenya.
The evidence seems to show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in act devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.

To further support this, two of Obama's classmates in Indonesia at the time one who is now the CEO of Indonesia's national airline and the other a bank manager in Jakarta remember a very different Obama, a very religious 'Barry Soetoro', one that was well versed in Islam and liked to recite his prayers.

"Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims"

Rony Amir, Manager, Bank Mandiri, Jakarta


"He was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong', at that time, he was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion."


Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia ~ 22 January 2007
The comments by Garuda Indonesia's CEO perhaps can give a glimpse into the hearts and the desires of all Indonesians (especially those who knew him), and that is, that not only did he change his name from Barry Soetoro to a more Islamic name Barack Hussein Obama, but he remained a muslim all his life and that his later conversion to Christianity in 1992 was perhaps not sincere, that he only changed his religion only so that he could marry Michelle.

Rony extrapolates further that Obama at one point had to change his religion if he ever intended later to run for the office of President of the United States because America would never elect a muslim to the be President of the United States.


The issue here is not whether or not Obama and his family were devout Muslims, whether or not he attended a madrassa as a child. But why the deception concerning his past?
The more the evidence unfolds, the more the American people will see that Barack Obama has not been completely forthcoming with the American people.

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106 posted on 06/28/2008 9:23:51 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: river rat
Yes, even Khadify “claims” him-—loudly and vociferously!
363 posted on 07/04/2008 2:39:49 AM PDT by singfreedom
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