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Congressman Holt Statement on FBI Settlement...in Botched Anthrax Attack Investigation
Holt's website ^ | June 27, 2008 | Congressman Rush Holt (D -NJ)

Posted on 06/28/2008 11:24:55 AM PDT by Shermy

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1 posted on 06/28/2008 11:24:56 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: TrebleRebel; jpl; muawiyah; Jabba the Nutt; Battle Axe; piasa; EdLake; Allan; Mitchell; ...

Very strong words from the congressman.


2 posted on 06/28/2008 11:28:12 AM PDT by Shermy (Handlebars, Flobots. A prophecy about egomania, megalomania and Obama.)
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To: Shermy

It’s Bush’s fault.


3 posted on 06/28/2008 11:29:33 AM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: Ben Reyes; Shermy

The FBI had two different compartmentalized squads pursuing entirely different theories. Hatfill was just one candidate, though he came to be the main one, of one of the two investigative squads. I think the FBI has a far keener understanding of the matter than most any public commenter. Specifically, almost all those commenters who think Al Qaeda or US-based supporters are responsible don’t realize that (and in that way are clueless) that is also what the FBI thinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-NGKm4xxC4


4 posted on 06/28/2008 11:52:15 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: Shermy

Good luck to Holt in obtaining any new information from Mueller - he’ll just get the usual “we are working tirelessly and are committed to solving th case” BS.
And I’m sure the FBI’s flat refusal to brief congress won’t deter Ed Lake’s belief that, in a completely opposite manner, it was Barbara Hatch Rosenberg and Congress that “forced” the FBI to pursue Hatfill.
Strange how Rush Holt and Grassley can’t get a peep out of the FBI but BHR managed to get a 5 year relentless pursuit of Hatfill.


5 posted on 06/28/2008 12:10:27 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel

It’s CYA.

I was thinking what I would ask for. I think if I were him I would ask for microscope photos of the atx. Wouldn’t that resolve the question whether the atx was “weaponized” with silica or other? How would national security be compromised by merely looking at photos?


6 posted on 06/28/2008 12:13:09 PM PDT by Shermy (Handlebars, Flobots. A prophecy about egomania, megalomania and Obama.)
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To: Shermy

bump


7 posted on 06/28/2008 12:15:47 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Shermy

More than strong words are needed.

$5.8 mil is a nice payoff— for losing your job, having everyone assume ‘that you really did it,’ character assination in the media, and having to put up with the full weight of federal law enforcement breathing down your neck. Just ask Richard Jewell, oops.

The only thing I resent about the payout is-—I’m paying it.
Those naives who believe every word from law enforcement should be on the hook, as should that disgrace AG AssCrotch.


8 posted on 06/28/2008 12:24:35 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (This is Sammy Israel III filling in for DB Cooper who will be returning next week,)
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To: Shermy

The FBI is never going to “out” the leftist within its midst who slimed Hatfill...much less admit that the perpetrators of the anthrax attack can’t be named due to current geopolitical considerations (e.g. Pakistan flipped over to our side to fight against Al Qaeda).


9 posted on 06/28/2008 12:29:34 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Natchez Hawk
$5.8 mil is a nice payoff— for losing your job, having everyone assume ‘that you really did it,’ character assination in the media, and having to put up with the full weight of federal law enforcement breathing down your neck. Just ask Richard Jewell, oops.

He will likely also be suing a number of media outlets, as well.

10 posted on 06/28/2008 1:35:47 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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Every $ he gets from those vultures he deserves.

This is where I support ridiculous jury awards.


11 posted on 06/28/2008 2:39:37 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (This is Sammy Israel III filling in for DB Cooper who will be returning next week,)
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To: Shermy

“I think if I were him I would ask for microscope photos of the atx.Wouldn’t that resolve the question whether the atx was “weaponized” with silica or other? “

Hmmmmm......


12 posted on 06/28/2008 2:52:37 PM PDT by Guy Noir
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“This is where I support ridiculous jury awards.”

thing is, it wasn’t a jury award, it was an out of court settlement with DOJ/FBI .. which means those Agencies didn’t want to go to trial for any number of reasons. A jury award would likely have been a good deal higher.


13 posted on 06/28/2008 3:17:35 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: ZACKandPOOK
Unfortunately for the FBI they early on began excluding Postal Service Inspectors and USPS operations, transportation and mail classification analysts.

The latter three occupation categories contain the core of USPS total systems understanding. In fact, the classification analysts write the regulations that direct the conduct of the public with respect to the use of the mails.

What little public information the FBI has provided concerning how mail moves, etc., has demonstrated only the most primitive of understandings.

Decades back there wasn't an FBI agent who hadn't paid for his college education by working at least part time in a post office. Today student loans have destroyed that category of FBI employee.

Plus, the Postal Inspection Service has a far higher conviction rate than does the FBI, so there might well be some interagency rivalry in this ~ another form of "compartmentalization" I suppose.

It's not too late to restart the investigation, but this time they should not be so quick to "pursue a theory", but instead they should analyze the devil out of the KNOWN FACTS and how those facts correlate with normal postal operations.

The business of digging up 10,000 residential mail boxes and dragging them off to the old GSA warehouse in Springfield VA need not have happened (for just one example).

14 posted on 06/28/2008 7:06:33 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: TrebleRebel
By her behavior Babs convinced me that she and other Leftwingtards feared that some of their own friends (e.g. people like un-indicted, un-prosecuted mad bomber William Ayers, and terrorist gun moll Bernadete Dohrn) might well have struck America again.

Hence their interest in diverting the entire investigation into unproductive avenues.

To do that they even gave up a resource at the CIA.

15 posted on 06/28/2008 7:10:15 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: TrebleRebel

Hey, Dr. Rebel, hasn’t Mr. Lake argued for years that the FBI did not suspect Dr. Hatfill? Doesn’t the story in today’s LA Times warrant that Ed correct his page in this regard?

“Leaks, focus on single suspect undercut anthrax probe,” Los Angeles Times, June 28, 2008
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-probe29-2008jun29,0,1652343.story

Separately, note the sentence: “Leahy later told Vermont students in an online discussion that some of the briefings he received ‘have been highly classified.’”


16 posted on 06/29/2008 2:07:43 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK
Notice how the LA Times reporter avoids ever mentioning the US Postal Service except to the extent that the anthrax attack disrupted service in some areas.

They have their own investigative division called the Inspection Service which has a better prosecution and conviction record than the FBI.

What this means is the reporter went only to his FBI sources to put together this story.

He also avoids naming Barbara Hatch Rosenberg as the starting point of accusations and malicious charges. Like so many other Leftwingtards this reporter and his editors continue to fear that one of their "friends" in the violent professional left was involved ~ so they continue to protect those people.

Not surprising Daschle's staffers were less than happy to deal with the FBI.

17 posted on 06/29/2008 5:44:49 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: muawiyah

The first one to make a “bioevangelist” argument in the MSM was Frances Boyle, legal advisor to the PLO and counsel to Bosnia and Herzegovina. BHR was a high profile one. But there were numerous others working email. It is misconceived focus to dwell too long on BHR. Her focus on the strain and weaponization (and the apparent connection to the US program) was sound. On Postal Inspectors, my own view is that we needed more involvement by the CIA, not a greater role for the Postal Inspectors. In another post (perhaps another thread) you mentioned some investigator, formerly CIA, who gave incorrect insights to the Task Force. Who were you thinking of? On the sourcing of the LA Times article, my reaction was that the agents named retired years ago. I think one retired in June 2002 as I recall.


18 posted on 06/29/2008 8:17:22 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

“Not surprising Daschle’s staffers were less than happy to deal with the FBI.”

As Ed points out, it was the input by the political staffers that perhaps put the investigation on tilt. But the staffers did nothing wrong. BHR did nothing wrong. (She was just wrong). The FBI had an investigation to conduct and we are not in a position to judge it or second-guess it except to the extent we can see that the leaks of the bloodhound and pond stories were stupid and improper. The media is not even to blame — who else should they rely on if not the fellow receiving reports from the head of the investigation? The folks to blame are those who are strident in their criticism and yet not do not digest that the infiltration of US biodefense here that occurred is as egregious and obvious as that which occurred with Ali Mohammed, OBL’s former intelligence head who was a US Army Sergeant, FBI informant and once worked for the CIA. See Peter Lance’s XXX. That includes most everyone — Holt, Leahy, Daschle etc.


19 posted on 06/29/2008 8:25:53 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: TrebleRebel; EdLake; Shermy; muawiyah; ZacandPook
This article in today's Los Angeles Times sure appears to me to completely blow away all of Ed's claims about how the FBI has done a bang-up job in this case and about how they ONLY went after Hatfill because of Rosenberg and the conspiracy theorists.

And this article isn't all just anonymous accusations, it names names and the whole nine yards. It's a devastating article regarding the FBI, and one that appears to me in which they have had some of these facts for a while and were simply waiting for Hatfill to finally be exonerated before printing it.

I am going to post this incredible article with an excerpt in a little bit.

20 posted on 06/29/2008 8:27:49 AM PDT by jpl
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