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To: SideoutFred
What is so freekin difficult about finding your original birth certificate? Sheesh, he's running for POTUS. I have two birth certificates. The original with a gold embossed seal and a second smaller one with an embossed seal. If I were running for President of the United States of America, I'd make at least one of them available for inspection.

Ah, but demanding a simple birth certificate from a contender in the race to be President of the United States of America is stupid and foolish and undemocratic. We deserve the leaders we get. We set the standards. It is obvious that our standards are low.

47 posted on 06/28/2008 12:58:08 PM PDT by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: Chgogal
"...Ah, but demanding a simple birth certificate from a contender in the race to be President of the United States of America is stupid and foolish and undemocratic. We deserve the leaders we get. We set the standards. It is obvious that our standards are low."

Amen. It's becoming absurd. I don't care what the reason is. I don't care if he's playing "mind games" with his opponents. I don't care if he's hiding something. I don't care if he thinks he's above it, because he isn't. This idiot is running for POTUS, and the only document that he's submitted for mass review as proof of his CONSTITUTIONAL eligibility is questionable at best and fraudulent at worst. Who the hell does he think he is? It should be a very simple matter to produce a valid birth certificate or certified copy of the same, WITHOUT the cert # blacked out and without obvious computer generated print, and then let it be inspected by whoever wants to inspect it. Instead, we get ridiculous mind games that fail to prove an essential requirement to serve as POTUS, except via a document that is riddled with obvious problems of fakery, and we get the typical MSM ignoring of it, because he's "their guy." The notion that inquiring minds should just "let it go" because there are so many other problems with this man, is ludicrous. It's quite possible to focus on all of the things wrong with this candidate, and an inability to offer a valid birth certificate is certainly one of the many problems he has that is worthy of inspection. It is the height of arrogance for this man not to produce a viable birth certificate to validate his quest to hold the highest office in the land. We aren't asking him to invent cold fusion, but to produce a document that every citizen is required to produce for the most mundane of things. As long as this marxist turd keeps playing games, he deserves to be called out on it daily, regardless of the reasons that he's playing this the game in the first place.

Talking about all the other stuff that is wrong with this man isn't going to get the MSM to suddenly start admitting all the troubling backround information on him. I think it's great that private citizens are subverting the media monopoly. The MSM has been subverting this nation long enough, it's time the tables were turned. Anyone tuning in to alternative media will get the full story on Backtrack Hussatan Obeymao if they choose to seek it out. Digging into this matter certainly isn't going to prevent anyone from finding out what Obama is all about if they want to look for answers. If they don't want to look for answers, they aren't going to find out all the problems with his candidacy anyway because the MSM sure as hell isn't going to clue them on in anything.

If he's playing games for the sheer sake of playing games, and later produces an authentic BC, then he can explain to the masses why he chose to play childish games with it in the first place. Something stinks to high heaven about this, whether he eventually produces an authentic BC or not.

275 posted on 06/28/2008 9:03:52 PM PDT by smedley64 (Dems go all-in every 4 years with a 7-2 offsuit marxist, hoping to hit the flop big just one time.)
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To: Chgogal

Look, you guys can get hot and bothered about this all you want. All I’m saying is that it makes us look stupid. Do you think for a New York second Hillary Clinton wouldn’t have exposed this if it were true? Please. Of course she would.

There is NOTHING to this. But these are the things that just make us look stupid so have at it.

I’d rather attack the man based on his ideology, his cocaine use, his promises that cannot possibly be paid for, his promise to pull out immediately in Iraq when we are winning this war, his negotiating redux of Jimmy Carter, etc, etc.

The idea that this guy isn’t legally a US Citizen and born in the US is ludicrous. Hillary would have been all over it.


292 posted on 06/28/2008 10:17:15 PM PDT by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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