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Code Pink Founder: "I Wouldn't Characterize Anybody Who Fought in Vietnam As A War Hero."
confederateyankee.mu.nu ^ | June 30, 2008

Posted on 06/30/2008 10:46:10 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: YearningToUnderstand
I didn’t make this personal, I just wanted to talk.

You did ask for the personal opinions of others what their definitions of 'hero' and 'patriotism' are. You have now had numerous answers from veterans of the armed services on both points. You have rejected every definition offered.

You say that you are here to learn and to talk so wouldn't it be fair, after receiving so many generous replies from men who risked their lives to gain the experiences you now want to benefit from, to give your definitions of 'heroism' and 'patriotism?' Are you willing to give anything to the conversation or are you just here to take from others?

181 posted on 06/30/2008 2:46:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: YearningToUnderstand
I was with a hero last night. As a boy, he watched his country attacked by the Japanese. When he was old enough he ENLISTED. Only about 5 feet tall, he ended up in the belly of a B-17 as a ball turret gunner.

He won't talk about it except to say he did his fifty missions, the last few of which were food drops in Holland. But, somewhere he found the courage to suck it up and crawl into that plastic bubble and defend his airplane FIFTY TIMES!!!

After the war was over, he went back to Minnesota, married his sweetheart and raise four pretty good kids. At 88 years old, he is still living with his now wheelchair-bound wife and taking care of her. They finally, just yesterday got a power seat and ramp in their van.

Now, that is a hero.

PS; I know this because I am married to their oldest daughter.

182 posted on 06/30/2008 3:09:49 PM PDT by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit...)
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To: TigersEye
Are you willing to give anything to the conversation or are you just here to take from others?

Frankly, I think this young-un just heard from the other side for the first time in his/her life. Well educated, well heeled, and trained at America's own madrases, Princeton and Harvard.

That there are millions of Vets proud of their service.....probably never dawned on him/her before....

183 posted on 06/30/2008 3:32:21 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: oh8eleven; YearningToUnderstand
I'm a combat vet and I can't say that I disagree.

Well, I'm not a combat vet (though a brother was) and I DO disagree.

The willingness to show up and take the consequences seals the deal.

185 posted on 06/30/2008 5:20:06 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media vs. the people.)
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To: YearningToUnderstand
So what is your agenda?

And what is Code Pink's agenda?

And why do you define heroes in such a way that they cannot exist by your standards?

Heroes exist, through great deeds, great works or even in their great ideas.

They exist all around us and most never get the recognition they deserve because of people like you that would prefer that they don't exist

But they do....

186 posted on 06/30/2008 6:46:58 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra

I’m curious. What was our little pacifist’s last post? Did he finally jump across the line with both feet or was it just the cumulative effect of his repugnance that got him zotted?


187 posted on 06/30/2008 9:20:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: TigersEye

It was a meltdown of sorts about how he believed there were no heroes because everyone has an agenda nothing spectacular or anything just one long sentence without any sentience.

Just the sort of gibberish one would expects from a f rated troll.


188 posted on 06/30/2008 9:26:15 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra

Rodger the F rating. It’s more entertaining when they come right out and accuse us of being controlled by Karl Rove and that aliens in UFOs have instructed them to come here and expose the truth to the world. If they can’t be sane they can at least be fun.


189 posted on 06/30/2008 9:35:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

I was thinking a waste of skin.


190 posted on 07/01/2008 2:54:18 AM PDT by awaken2spirit (When one fornicates with ignorance, the result of that union is chaos.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

WELL I’LL JUST BE . . . . . . . . .


191 posted on 07/01/2008 3:20:17 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Greasy Grit Gravey & Gizzard Greens-----Some of My Favorite Things)
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To: Mr. Silverback
You really should reconsider your comments about GWB. Military aviation is a very dangerous enterprise, and the F-102 was a real widowmaker.

So is hard partying and driving while under the influence of alcohol...but, considering the amount of flight time he did in the F-102 versus the amount of time spent partying, I really believe that the latter of the two was more hazardous to GWB--the third worst (after Carter and Clinton) president of my lifetime!

192 posted on 07/01/2008 7:41:30 AM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 203 and counting))
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To: TigersEye

Quite a few folks on my nada list get banned eventually. You can kind of tell who’s going to flip out.


193 posted on 07/01/2008 12:44:01 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Well that is very interesting. You must have been pretty quick to get YearningtoUnderstand on your nada list. Was that a posthumous honor in his case?

I notice that you have a number of long time FReepers on the nada list who are still currently active. I also see that I'm not on it. What exactly does 'nada list' mean? What are the criterion for getting listed?

194 posted on 07/01/2008 12:58:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: TigersEye

I put “Yearningtounderstand” on yesterday. I thought he was a poser.


195 posted on 07/01/2008 1:13:23 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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