It doesn’t matter...he was supposedly born in Hawaii, which has been a U.S. territory since 1898. That fact alone makes him a natural born citizen. No subsequent amendments has altered that condition.
The section we were previously discussing referred to “a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions.” Any amendments to this section are irrelevant to the discussion.
Now if turns out that he really WASNT born in Hawaii, then he’s got a problem.
The section we were previously discussing referred to “a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions.” Any amendments to this section are irrelevant to the discussion.
Now if turns out that he really WASNT born in Hawaii, then he’s got a problem.
That's pretty generally correct. This first came up in connection with Barry Goldwater in 1964. Goldwater was born to two US Citizens in the territory of Arizona before statehood--no doubt about his citizenship. The general understanding among the Constitutional lawyers of the time was that his citizenship was not controlling; there was a general consensus the fact that Arizona had been subsequently incorporated in the union probably made Goldwater eligible to serve although legal challenges were not pursued because it became clear Goldwater had no chance to be elected.
I assume Obama was born after Hawaii became a state in 1959. So, no doubt, if he was born in Hawaii, he is both a citizen and eligible to be President; and, if not, he is neither a citizen nor eligible to be President. Simple as that.
I differ with you in that I see the current record raising a pretty clear inference that he was born in Kenya: The only support for his birth in Hawaii is a couple of clearly fraudulent Birth Certificates; the hospital at which his original claim of birth was directed was not constructed until after his claimed birth; his birth there is not reported in Vital Statistics under any of his historical names and his mother is not reported as the mother of anyone; no single person has come forward with any personal knowledge of his presence or birth in Hawaii in 1961; there is a reported interview of the "grandmother" and two of his half-siblings that purports to claim they were present at his birth in Kenya; and there is the Wayne Madsen update reporting that three investigators hired to investigate Obama's background in Kenya have located official records of his birth in Kenya confirming that his birth occurred in that country.