Fire Under Arctic Ice: Volcanoes Have Been Blowing Their Tops In The Deep Ocean

http://www.sciencedaily.com ^ | June 26, 2008 | ScienceDaily

[antonia]

A research team led by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) has uncovered evidence of explosive volcanic eruptions deep beneath the ice-covered surface of the Arctic Ocean. Such violent eruptions of splintered, fragmented rock--known as pyroclastic deposits -- were not thought possible at great ocean depths because of the intense weight and pressure of water and because of the composition of seafloor magma and rock.

[antonia]

I cut a lot of slack for vulcanologists. Their work is just insanely dangerous, between invisible heat plumes, invisible gases, unpredictable eruptions, flying debris, razor sharp glass-like lavas, splashing lavas, steam explosions, etc.
Deep underwater, where concussions are transmitted over long distances, you could die so quick it"'s not even funny.

I have no problem with the fact that in just about every line of research there is plenty more to know. Such is the joy of life, work and moving forward to see what's next.

I am criticizing the people who have taken generalized titles like 'environmentalist' and then run around pretending that they are expert in anything, when in fact, they know nothing but one idea which they apply universally with equally uninformed results.

"Should large quantities of methane be released from methane hydrates, for instance, in association with permafrost thaw, then we could have large sudden increases in atmospheric methane with potentially large affects on global temperatures."

It may well be that drilling for the oil and extracting the gas are what will 'save the enviroment'.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

I have heard speculation that the vast undersea frozen methane ice fields could be mined with robots. As the methane ice was removed, it would be allowed to warm, then the gas ignited to provide energy. Some of this energy would be used to create dry ice, that would serve several purposes.

To start with, it would replace much of the volume of the methane ice, to help prevent tunnel collapse. And being very cold, it would reduce the temperature of the methane ice to prevent explosion. And the CO2 would go further when sublimated, by preventing accidental fire because of sparks.

As it sublimated, it would be replaced with ordinary water ice.

As an aside, just within the past few days, it was learned that the mid-Atlantic ocean doesn’t just absorb vast amounts of atmospheric CO2, but also absorbs vast amounts of atmospheric ozone and methane. This is a new discovery, and has very important implications in the MMGW models.

[antonia]

What is neat about what you are talking about is that man's involvement would take advantage of natural process, even harnessing their forces from chaotic destruction to useful power. Man becomes a part of the system for the good of the planet.

Man Made Global Warming would be much better served by putting up the moneys for the kind of ideas that we are talking about than by the many funding hoaxes which 'environmentalism' has generated.

Better yet; let's move manufacturing to the moon and mars.

 

Methane Bubbling From Arctic Lakes

Nature 442, 793-796 (17 August 2006) | doi:10.1038/nature04945; Received 4 April 2006; Accepted CO2 jets formed by sublimation beneath translucent slab ice in Mars' seasonal south polar ice cap

[Scythian]

Here's the telling quote from the scientists that reveal their liberal bent ...

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With news this week that polar ice is melting dramatically, underwater Arctic pyrotechnics might seem like a logical smoking gun. Scientists don't see any significant connection, however. "We don't believe the volcanoes had much effect on the overlying ice," Reeves-Sohn told LiveScience, "but they seem to have had a major impact on the overlying water column."

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Ya right, it has no effect, just like holding a lighter under an icecube would have no effect ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,374542,00.html

[antonia]

Ash from the eruption disrupted life for millions of people. Fifty-seven people died, and the economic cost was US$1 billion.

It was on May 18, 1980 that Mount St. Helens blew her top. Here in SW Connecticut, that summer's temperatures never got over 72 degrees. The next few years were nicely cool also, though not as cool as that first summer..