Posted on 07/02/2008 10:22:56 AM PDT by Winged Hussar
It has been established [http://husaria.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/obama-campaign-sanctioned-anti-semitic-and-other-hate-speech/] that Barack Obama’s official campaign site exercises editorial control over the content of my.barackobama.com, and is capable of finding and removing “offensive” and “disrespectful” material within two days. The following has been online for almost three weeks. It accuses Israel of deliberatly murdering the crew of the U.S.S. Liberty, American Jews with divided loyalties of complicity, and John McCain’s father of complicity in a cover up. The following entry is sanctioned (tolerated) by Barack Obama’s official campaign...
Now, we come to what has happened in the past few years. A man called A. J. Cristol, a Jewish bankruptcy judge from Florida, wrote a book called THE LIBERTY INCIDENT, in which he says Israel is exonerated for the attack on the LIBERTY because it was a case of mistaken identity. The book is full of lies, falsehoods and continues the cover-up for Israel’s blatant murder of American sons on the high seas. The survivors call this book a bunch of hog wash. Guess who endorses this book as factual? YEP! You guessed it - Senator John McCain. He knows all about the cover-up on the LIBERTY attack but he follows in his father’s footsteps and praises this piece of garbage. He, along with his father, has the blood of the LIBERTY crew on his hands.
... All McCain cares about is the Jewish vote and pleasing Israel. No one should be allowed to get by with murder, not even Israel nor our elected officials. They all should be held accountable for the murders and wounding of Americans and the subsequent cover-up, especially Senator John McCain.
(Excerpt) Read more at israpundit.com ...
Friendly fire incidents are all about mistaken identity. They are accidents. Not relevant to the Liberty incident.
I'm neither a witness nor a military man, though I rely on info from a military historian, a friend of mine. Long story short, Soviet fleet in 1967 was protecting Egypt from the sea and sea approach for fighter jet was assumed impenetrable. Israeli pilots, however, used technique developed by our guys in Nam and flew their jets at about 10+ feet above sea level - below Soviet radars. You must know the history - attack was devastating for Egyptians and it was a bruised ego for Soviets.
So, when Israelis all of a sudden discovered a spy ship right by their noses, they asked US fleet if it was ours. Response was no - no our ships are where Israel says... Israelis assumed that it is either Egyptians or Soviets under US flag trying to prevent the next surprise and bombed the ship. Unfortunately info that it is CIA operation came a bit late for many of our sailors.
You can dislike Israel and you are free to feel that way. However, to insist that Israelis made a deliberate attack on the US ship is quite an way to feed this feeling! For what reason they attacked?? Israelis already had their hands full with Arab states, Soviets were threatening with a direct attack and annihilation - so, attack us to make it a full house??
4 letter word happens in war.... We bombed a few Canadians into oblivion in Afghanistan, for one. Liberty was a tragic mistake.
Have a happy 4th of July.
President Johnson is such a font of credibility. < /sarcasm>
...divulging battlefield tactics to the enemy. How does that amount to "support for Israeli operations"?
It wasn't much help, was it? I recall that breach was caused by excited youngsters operating outside of training by yaking with friends on other vessles. (I'm thinking back to material I read in the 1970s.)
Can we not hold a rational discussion sans the personal insults?
Sorry, my bad. That is one thing I hate about discussions on this board myself. I get peeved when anyone thinks we are "meddling" or "poking our nose where it doen't belong". We have a right and a need to gather intelligence anywhere or anytime we please. If we are hammered inside territorial waters, then we should take our lumps. Otherwise, we should be very upset when attacked.
Recently, Gene Lalor put up a USS Liberty thread and it was quickly taken down. I pointed out that the incident was well explained in the book “The Spymasters of Israel”. Since there have been many USS Liberty threads on FR in the past, I was surprised to find that there are no google hits for “USS Liberty” and “Spymasters of Israel” on Free Republic. So I’m reposting part of what I wrote here for future reference.
THE SHAME OF THE USS LIBERTY Dec 19, 2008 ... You need to read a book called “The Spymasters of Israel”. They detail that the USS Liberty was a signals intelligence ship and that it had ...
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2151823/posts - 37 minutes ago - Similar pages
IIRC his hypothetical question was something like, which side would you be on in a war between Israel & the US.
It’s sorta the opposite of which side would you have been on in NAZIs vs Bolsheviks... in that case it was bad guy vs. bad guy and in this case it’s good guy vs. good guy. So the obvious answer is... whoever wins ;-)
Oh hey, helps to read ALL the comments, I just got up, just starting my first cup o’ coffee, fighting off a damn cold. That’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it. Thanks for the explanation fellas about the ‘hypothetical’ question deal.
I need some Jewish Penicillin (aka chicken soup), hey Gene?!? You got any Hebrew National Chicken-Vegetable soup?
[crickets] ;)
LOL!
Oy! ;)
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