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THE DEBT: WHAT AMERICA OWES BLACKS: Is America ready to pay reparations for its sins of slavery?
eurweb.com ^ | 07/03/08 | William Reed

Posted on 07/03/2008 5:20:26 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

Segments of Americans are gearing up to oppose Senator Barack Obama because they fear he will be more considerate of the debt America owes to Blacks.

Anti-Obama whites, in particular, are concerned he’ll get into the White House and put Blacks on track for “a reparations gravy train.”

CNN debate moderator Anderson Cooper put Black Reparations on track to be a part of the presidential dialogue during the South Carolina Primaries.

The African-American vote in South Carolina was very important, and that made the reparations question relevant in the Democratic Debate. At that event former Senator John Edwards said “ I'm not for reparations…but I think there are other things we can do to create some equality that doesn't exist in this country today” he said, going on to talk about inequities African Americans experienced paying mortgages in Charleston, S.C., where the debate was held.

When Cooper asked Sen. Barack Obama about reparations he sidestepped a yes or no answer instead preferring to redefine reparations to make it part of a broader conversation about economic justice. “I think the reparations we need right here in South Carolina is investment, for example, in schools.” Obama said.

To corner Obama and nail all the candidates down, Cooper asked for a show of hands and questioned: “Is anyone on the stage for reparations for slavery for African-Americans?” The only “yes” came from Congressman Dennis Kucinich who said: “The Bible says we shall be and must be repairers of the breach. And a breach has occurred. We have to acknowledge that. It's a breach that has resulted in inequality in opportunities for education, for health care, for housing, for employment.”

From then on, reparations have been an issue in the campaign. America owes Blacks $700 billion to $1.9 trillion for unpaid labor that built the country’s infrastructure, including the U.S. Capitol. While Obama dodges the issue, his “old church, Trinity United Church of Christ, lists “The Debt: What America Owes To Blacks, by Randall Robinson (Penguin Putman Inc., 2000) as recommended reading”. In The Debt, Robinson argues that America still owes an enormous debt to Africans and African Americans for the incalculable damage that backs have suffered and continue to suffer as a result of two hundred and fifty years of slavery and segregation.

Barack’s birthright brothers many whites; but Wautella Graham of the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America (N’COBRA) breaks the question of slavery into four categories of involvement: victims, collaborators, perpetrators and beneficiaries and makes the point that, “Even immigrants and people whose ancestral line contains no slaveholders should pay reparations, since every American benefits from slavery.”

Slavery victimizes free blacks to this day. All American people are responsible for the debt America owes.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: extortion; obama; racehustlers; reparations; reveseracism; stickittowhitey
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Thou shalt not steal ..... slavery is the theft of someones freedom and fruit of their labor. Much like taxes you pay to keep Ted Kennedy fat and happy.
141 posted on 07/03/2008 10:30:50 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: TornadoAlley3

What America owes?/

Exactly dookie. No more.


142 posted on 07/03/2008 10:34:23 AM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: SC DOC
Will Obama have to PAY reparations?

That article establishes his liability on his mother's side. However, Comrade Obama probably is liable through his father's side as well. As the article points out, he is not an authentic American black, descended from slaves, but rather the son of an elite Kenyan tribesman whose ancestors were likely supplying slaves to the Dutch and Portuguese slave traders.

The Trans-Saharan Slave Trade

As a matter of fact, the Mooselimbs of Mauritania still hold slaves! What say you on that, Barack Hussein Obama?

143 posted on 07/03/2008 12:03:30 PM PDT by cynwoody (qual)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I'll burn every last dollar I have and throw all my coins down the gutter before I let the race hustlers have what's mine.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

144 posted on 07/03/2008 12:15:39 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Even IF so-called ‘reparations’ were paid...do you think the issue would come to an end? I don’t. Gimme gimme gimme sumpin for nuttin.


145 posted on 07/03/2008 12:28:14 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: cookcounty

Hey, we were invaded and ruled by the Normans, the French should pay!

Mind you, the Romans should bear some responsibility too.


146 posted on 07/03/2008 12:29:11 PM PDT by Brunanburh
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To: TornadoAlley3

If I am forced, the only reparations I would make will be paid in hot lead.


147 posted on 07/03/2008 12:33:21 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Worth repeating:
“No reparations ever. It’s all over. Nothing to see here. You aren’t slaves. The fact you’re on welfare today, or taking gubmint handouts has nothing to do with whether or not your ancestry has slavery in it or not. The fact you didn’t learn anything in high school cause you were trying to be cool doesn’t have anything to do with slavery. Take responsibility for your own problems, and that the biggest reason why you are the way you are, and are living the way you are living, is YOU. Not slavery.

Slavery is a crutch, an excuse for you not to be responsbile for your life. Your pet reason to blame anyone else but yourself.

No reparations ever.”

Umm... do you think we could get McCain to say that to the cameras if the subject gets raised during the debates?

It would win the election for him, right then and there.

- John


148 posted on 07/03/2008 12:54:28 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: TornadoAlley3

Considering all the welfare and “affirmative action” jobs blacks have been given we whites have paid enough.


149 posted on 07/03/2008 12:59:47 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: 7thOF7th
If there are ANY reparations to be made, the Irish are at the FRONT of the line and the blacks are....well you know, back of the line. An inconvenient truth the libs don't want anyone to know is the first Irish to come to this Country were slaves.

To loosely borrow from Blazing Saddles, "We'll give reparations to the n-----s and the c----s, BUT NOT THE IRISH!!!"

150 posted on 07/03/2008 2:39:39 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Pay each living ex-slave $100,000 and fine each living slave-owner $1,000,000


151 posted on 07/03/2008 2:43:01 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: dfwgator

:-)


152 posted on 07/03/2008 2:45:34 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Fishrrman

I wish he would - it’s not like that is going to cost him the black vote!


153 posted on 07/03/2008 3:30:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
370,000 dead white men already paid it...over 150 years ago.

It is a disgrace and shames the life's blood of those who died to now ask for money.

Are any of us whose relatives died in that war asking the blacks to pay us?

No. We would not shame our own in that fashion.

The blacks have been victimized by their own, and particularly by the democratic party who have used mental and psychological means to enslave them financially and emotionally to this day. They should rise up and break free of it as quite a few have done, who recognize that freedom and opportunity beckon and await all in this country who will simply work for it.

So, the answer is not only no, it is hell no!

Leave off this talk and pester us no more with this foolishness. Stand up on your own feet and shake off the shackels of your oppressors and join the rest of us as free men and women.

154 posted on 07/03/2008 3:37:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: TornadoAlley3
“Even immigrants and people whose ancestral line contains no slaveholders should pay reparations, since every American benefits from slavery.”

Including blacks, presumably.
Since their lot is no different now for them in America than it was in 1860, they should be falling all over themselves to return to the Kingdom of the Congo in West Africa; that earthly paradise.

"Slavery victimizes free blacks to this day. All American people are responsible for the debt America owes.”

Again, "all Americans" would include "free" blacks...
Assuming that it is inconsequential how they are victimized to this day, how are today's blacks entitled to define what is "owed" them? and if "free" blacks are a class, what about the "unfree" ones? where are they? Don't they get a say?

I am truly confused...

155 posted on 07/03/2008 5:41:05 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: cookcounty
Let’s see, the British brought African slavery to the North American continent, so...thta’s the first place that reparations should begin.

Actually, the Portuguese began the whole thing with Spaniard ships being the "wholesalers" and transporters.*

The british were Johnny-come-latelies.

Presumably the existing American oppressed blacks have already filed claims in Portugal and Spain, and perhaps Belgium...
Oooops!
Or perhaps not.

*The Slave Trade, Hugh Thomas, Simon and Schuster, 1997

156 posted on 07/03/2008 5:47:12 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: driftless2
Many of my slavic ancestors were either enslaved

In fact the word 'slave' is derived from 'Slav', since slaves in the later Roman (Byzantine) Empire were primarily slavic (likely Bulgars in particular).

157 posted on 07/03/2008 6:05:49 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: Little Ray
Think that is included; by some fashion; in his rhetoric of 'change'. We had better listen carefully -

tween the lines as well.

Am thinking that opening song in Denver i.e. 'Black National Anthem' was a personal contribution to the 'change' Obama speeks of as well.

Change we can believe in - does not spell out the 'who' of the 'we'.

That said; the Black have gotten and continue to get their 'reparations' . . .

BTW. ..given their Egyption history; to whom will they pay reparations. Don't think those pyramid builders were paid a fair wage for their labor; if they were paid at all.

158 posted on 07/03/2008 8:16:33 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: TornadoAlley3

RE:Reparations-”Baracks birthright bothers many whites....”What birthright?Kenyan father and a white mother.I’m a little confused here.How would B be entitled to reparations?BTW we’ve been paying rep’s for 40+years.How many trillions of dollars have we plowed into AA programs,welfare,foodstamps,minority business loans,outreach programs,etc,etc?Enough is enough.


159 posted on 07/06/2008 8:51:18 AM PDT by Thombo2
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