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GUNS AND JUDGES (Reinhard)
The Oregonian ^ | July 3, 2008 | David Reinhard

Posted on 07/03/2008 9:16:22 AM PDT by jazusamo

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1 posted on 07/03/2008 9:20:01 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

An unfortunate rendering of the headline and author.

Judge Reinhard is such a liberal weenie.


2 posted on 07/03/2008 9:25:40 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: jazusamo
In holding that the Second Amendment granted individuals the right to keep and bear arms,

Except that the 2nd 'grants' nothing and the decision of SCOTUS said nothing of the kind.

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3 posted on 07/03/2008 9:28:58 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: jazusamo
So the Washington Post's E J. Dionne Jr. believes that upholding the precise literary definition of the 2nd Amendment is a form of right-wing judicial activism?

I believe that's called "projection." (Or insanity.)

4 posted on 07/03/2008 9:29:55 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

That thought didn’t cross my mind but you’re right.


5 posted on 07/03/2008 9:30:00 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Lurker
Except that the 2nd 'grants' nothing and the decision of SCOTUS said nothing of the kind.

Exactly, the right is inherent. Yet liberals still fail to grasp this and believe rights are doled out to the great unwashed by the Benevolent Imperial Federal Government.

Years of brain conditioning by left wing academia has finally fruited. I'm not sure that it's possible to make any of them understand their wrong-headedness at this point.
6 posted on 07/03/2008 9:32:27 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
An unfortunate rendering of the headline and author. Judge Reinhard is such a liberal weenie.

I think you might have misread the article. David Reinhard is a conservative defending Scalia. It is the idiot E. J. Dionne who needs to remove his head from you-know-where.

7 posted on 07/03/2008 9:34:44 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: jazusamo
Not to mention the the Miller decision was just wrong on it's main point - that "the Militia" didn't have a use for a sawed-off shotgun, so Mr. Miller wasn't entitled to own one.

That type of gun was used to devastating effect in the trenches of WW I, to force German soldiers to abandon those trenches, and subject themselves to even more withering firepower when outside the trenches.

If anything, this should cut the OTHER way. Our armed services, and our state militias, are allowed use of some very serious firepower. Citizen militias (i.e. able bodied males, etc.) should be allowed utterly unfettered access to the same weapons, in defense of tyranny.

It will be very telling if a case comes before the USSC with that set of facts as the argument as to why normal law-abiding people should be able to own full auto machine guns, for instance.

8 posted on 07/03/2008 9:35:22 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: jazusamo

Ted Nugent summed it up nicely with this:

“SUPREME” COURT?
I CAN DO BETTER

by Ted Nugent

It is glaringly obvious that a critical lesson in history 101 is due in America, for it appears that not only does a lunatic fringe of anti-freedom Americans dismiss our founding father’s clear declaration of independence and succinct enumeration of our God given individual rights, but some Americans have the arrogance and audacity to question whether the right to self-defense is indeed one of these individual rights. Dear God in heaven, who could be this soulless? How about 4 out of the 5 so called “Supreme” justices of the land. God help us all.

Who could be so asinine as to believe that a free man has no such right to keep and bear arms for self-defense? What kind of low life scoundrel would know that courageous heroes of the US Military would volunteer over and over again to sacrifice and die for such self-evident truths, then turn around and spit on their graves by discounting the very freedoms that these brave men and women have died to protect?

Will these supreme legal scholars also affirm an individual right to chose the religion of our individual choice? Do they authorize our individual freedom of speech? Can you imagine? Them is fighting words my friends, and the line drawn in the sand has never been more outrageous.

Recent USA Today and Gallup polls showed a whopping 73% of good Americans know damn well that we are all created equal, and that we each have an individual right to protect our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. What kind of jackass doesn’t know this? Allow the guitar player to translate for the soul-dead amongst us.

Keep-this means the gun is mine and you can’t have it. This does not mean I will register it with a government agency. The government works for “we the people”, not the other way around, regardless of what Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein or Barack Hussein Obama or 4 supreme justices may try to tell you.

Bear-this means I’ve got it right here, on me, either in my grasp or damn near. This does not mean locked away in a safe, trigger-locked or stored at the local sporting club.

Shall not be infringed-this of course is another way of saying Don’t tread on me, for we will not be your willing crime victims, subjects, servants or slaves, so don’t even think about it.

When the evil King’s gangsters came to collect unfair taxes from Americans, we tossed their tea into the drink. When they came to disarm us into helplessness against their old world tyrannical ways, we met them at Concord Bridge and shot them dead till they quit treading on us. Any questions children? I didn’t think so.

Corrupt men cannot be trusted, hence the right of “the people” to chose the individual church of our choice, to speak our individual ideas and beliefs, to have individual freedom from unwarranted searches and seizures, and ultimately, to exercise our individual right to keep and bear arms so that evildoers cannot do unto us that which we would not do unto them. Get it? I would love to meet the human being who would argue these points with us. We would be looking at a fascist, and of course fascists, by all historical and empirical evidence, must be eliminated.

If you value the American Way, if you believe in the words and spirit of the US Constitution and our sacred Bill of Rights, if you know in your heart that you have the right, the duty, the spiritual obligation to protect yourself and your loved ones from evil in all of its forms, then you had best contact each and every one of your elected officials right away and let them know that you know exactly what the Second Amendment says and stands for. Remind them about the “shall not be infringed” clause.

It will not be the fault of the rotten anti-Americans out there who don’t believe in individual rights that rape and pillage our Constitution, it will be the fault of those who know better but failed to speak up. Now is the time to fortify America, and we better inform the Supreme Court just who truly is the “Supreme” Court of America-We the people. Individual people with individual, God given rights. The real America. Live free or die.


9 posted on 07/03/2008 9:37:16 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Flycatcher; Cletus.D.Yokel

I believe CDY is referring to my adding Reinhard’s name to the title following JUDGES.


10 posted on 07/03/2008 9:38:43 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
A question somewhat off topic. If one of the old, frail, liberal judges was to expire before the election, would Bush be able to get a replacement confirmed?

And what would be the consequences of that answer?

11 posted on 07/03/2008 9:45:07 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Betty Jane
"And what would be the consequences of that answer?"

Harriet Miers could be brought out of retirement?

12 posted on 07/03/2008 9:49:05 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor; smoothsailing
Bump for Ted (whack em and stack em) Nugent!

He brings up an excellent point that Lawrence Henry also found the close decision frightening.

What America Is All About

13 posted on 07/03/2008 9:49:55 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Betty Jane

I don’t think one could be confirmed unless he completely caved to the RATS wishes, which I doubt.


14 posted on 07/03/2008 9:52:42 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: DJ Taylor

Ted, I do not know if you are a lurker here, but damnit, come back to the peoples democratik republik of michigan and run for governor....please


15 posted on 07/03/2008 9:52:57 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Constitutions reset button)
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To: Flycatcher; Lurker
David Reinhard is a conservative defending Scalia.

Well, perhaps he should be reminded that the BoR doesn't "grant" anything; it merely enumerates pre-existing, natural rights.

As with religion, speech & assembly (1A), we have the right to self-defense, whether the threat comes from criminals, insurrection, enemies or tyrannical government, regardless of any written words.

The greatest irony, which seems to be missed by most, is that the 2A practically guaranteed its own affirmation. Even though it was 5-4, I believe a dissenting justice would have joined the majority if Kennedy had wavered. No one wants to play that level of brinkmanship to see if the People would really be pushed to CWII.

16 posted on 07/03/2008 9:58:01 AM PDT by semantic
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To: semantic
Well, perhaps he should be reminded that the BoR doesn't "grant" anything; it merely enumerates pre-existing, natural rights.

Not to beat a dead horse here, but Reinhard understands that. He's on our side — 100% His attack is against people who don't understand that, such as E. J. Dionne. Reinhard even calls Scalia's defence of the literal interpretation of the 2nd Amendment "majestic."

To sum up, Reinhard, good; Dionne, bad.

17 posted on 07/03/2008 10:09:56 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Flycatcher

You’re exactly right about Reinhard being on our side. I’ve posted many of his columns and some have seen The Oregonian listed and think he’s not on our side, he is a true conservative.


18 posted on 07/03/2008 10:15:43 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; MotleyGirl70; Cagey; Mr. Brightside; Gamecock; Rebelbase
Did you mean Judge Reinhold? (The close talker?)


19 posted on 07/03/2008 10:24:54 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: jazusamo
It would be wonderful someday if a Supreme Court were to rule it unConstitutional to require a serial number on a firearm. Much of the anti-gunners evil is enabled by this single requirement.

Just as the key civil rights decisions dealing with race were followed by massive civil rights demonstrations, perhaps we will see a massive demonstration by gun owners refusing to enable the registration of their arms.

20 posted on 07/03/2008 10:47:57 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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