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1 posted on 07/03/2008 4:45:50 PM PDT by brwnsuga
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“...it would take at least five years for oil production to begin”

That’s decades faster than any so called alternative sources. I don’t believe it would take 5 years. You can go through college in a year less than that. There’s no way it would take 5 years. No way.


2 posted on 07/03/2008 4:51:24 PM PDT by vigilo
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any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant

BS. Opec would react to our determination by raising production in order to maintain their market share. Prices would drop immediately. Even Bush's threat to seek more domestic production caused them to increase production last week.

And even if we don't get back to $1 per gallon how about the value of maintaining present prices with increased production. If we do nothing prices will continue to rise as demand rises.
3 posted on 07/03/2008 4:53:56 PM PDT by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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This story is funny. First of all if it had any legs at all it would have taken off into a sprint by now from the MSM. Second of all I find it funny that the blowhard olberman keeps making comments about how Graham did this all by himself, like he ran congress or something. This is a non story. Olberman probably thought he had some type of monster story here and it is a nothing!! Way to go blow hard, more propaganda.


4 posted on 07/03/2008 4:55:02 PM PDT by cla62
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because it would take at least five years for oil production to begin.

They have been reciting that tired old line for twenty years now.
5 posted on 07/03/2008 4:55:53 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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Kind of creepy, posting a blog entry from a guy who admires Keith Olberman, and mostly quotes from Keith’s propaganda show.


6 posted on 07/03/2008 4:56:25 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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FWIW - This morning on CNBC Sharon Epperson said that she has been getting E-Mails from refining executives. The executives are telling her that the refineries are not making a profit and that they are going to have to shut down in a few weeks. (Maybe two weeks before the Democrat Convention?)


7 posted on 07/03/2008 4:58:45 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let all Democrats have a half vote. They deserve it!)
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Somehow, a loophole signed into law by Clinton in 2000, did nothing to the oil markets for 6 years, until the Democrats took control of congress. Then, with the markets assured that no new oil would come from the United States, the oil prices shot through the roof, but not because of the assured shortages making oil consumers scared enough to bid up the price, but instead because of speculators who for some reason had no idea they could make billions like this until the Democrats took over.


8 posted on 07/03/2008 5:00:04 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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The Energy Dept. is ignoring 2 things when they conclude that the economic effect would be negligible:

1) The effect that the drilling would have on the dollar. If we use our own oil instead of importing it from Saudi Arabia, then the dollar will rise as the trade deficit declines, and that will make even foreign oil cheaper here, even though it has no significant effect on the world price.

2) The fact that we’d actually be better off if it had no effect on the price of oil. That’s because the oil is owned by the Federal Government and can be sold to the oil companies as part of the drilling process. The proceeds can then be used to fund the budget, without increasing taxes.


9 posted on 07/03/2008 5:02:22 PM PDT by Brilliant
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The headline is ridiculous.
It is pure Rat propaganda to justify doing nothing constructive.
Drill, drill, drill!


11 posted on 07/03/2008 5:08:17 PM PDT by devere
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Sorry using “Countdown With Keith Olberman” as your main source immediately discredits this report


13 posted on 07/03/2008 5:14:28 PM PDT by philo
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(Source: Center for American Progress.)

Lemme correct that for ya: (Source: Center for American COMMUNIST Progress REGRESSION.)

14 posted on 07/03/2008 5:15:28 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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But “because oil prices are determined on the international market…any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.

That 'international market' price is sort of a misnomer when it comes to prices we pay in America.

Just because the Arabs or Nigeria (or whatever) is selling crude for $144 a barrel doesn't mean that US companies (Exxon or Marathon or Valero, etc) is paying $144 a barrel for oil they get in the Gulf of Mexico, or Oklahoma, or Texas, or Alaska.

In fact, if we as a country import 50% of our oil from overseas, then only 50% is purchased at a high price... and the rest was produced at ... at the cost of getting it out of the ground, refining, etc.

The gasoline now in tanks at the local gas station was most likely taken out of the ground about six or eight months ago...

shipped, pipe-lined, refined, stored....

Bottom line: a totally American company who gets all their crude oil in America should be at a tremendous advantage because they are not forced to pay cut-throat prices from the Saudi's, Venezuela, Nigeria, etc.

15 posted on 07/03/2008 5:17:01 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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five years is not a long time to wait for a successful national energy policy which includes all forms of energy development.

We’ve been putting off an energy policy since the 70s by saying developing new oil sources will take too long to implement or ‘drilling in the U.S or offshore won’t give us enough oil.”


16 posted on 07/03/2008 5:19:25 PM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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There are people who live in this country and want to see it destroyed.


18 posted on 07/03/2008 5:22:52 PM PDT by spanalot
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Speculators only bet on the direction and the direction is more Demand than Supply. We increase Supply and we change the Direction.

If you like $5/gal, Thank Congress. If you want $10, Vote Obama.

Pray for W and Our Troops


19 posted on 07/03/2008 5:23:39 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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I’m not sure I agree. Wouldn’t these same uber-speculaters currently trading unregulated in USA just continue to trade unregulated on British futures markets, where it’s apparently more lax?


25 posted on 07/03/2008 5:34:13 PM PDT by milky
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The day we give the okay to drilling off-shore or in ANWR the price of oil will plummet. The mechanism that will do that is the futures market, the big bad speculators everybody likes to hate so much.


35 posted on 07/03/2008 6:07:48 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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If it is going to take 10 5 years,
shouldn't we get started?

Drill here, drill now, pay less


36 posted on 07/03/2008 6:09:51 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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...because it would take at least five years for oil production to begin

Absolute bull crap - there are numerous fields that were discovered decades ago, off the coast of California, that have never produced a drop of oil, simply because D@mocrats (federal, State & local) won't allow it [ http://www.mms.gov/omm/pacific/offshore/ofrrpt.htm ]. Several of the fields are of "unusual size" (ala 'ROUSs' - and I kid you not, they're monsters). Production could commence in much less than a year, using floating facilities, if the D@mocrats would just get their sorry @sses out of the way (and out of the courts).

But, in reality, it will never happen - the D@mocrats (federal, State & local) actually prefer extremely high oil prices...

37 posted on 07/03/2008 6:13:08 PM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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And of course, even if speculation legislation could drop the price 25%, that would just make oil $110 a gallon, which DOUBLE The amount it was when the Democrats took over, equates to gasoline at almost $4 a gallon (refineries are almost losing money because they can’t sell gasoline more expensively, and they can’t get raw materials cheap enough, which suggests that soon people are going to stop buying the oil, which should lower the price).

And according to the democrats, 20% of the price when they took over was speculation.

So if 25% of the run-up is speculation, 75% is because the Democrats won’t let us drill for more oil. The “Enron Loophole” is Clinton’s fault, and the other 75% is the 40-year FAILED POLICIES of no-drill by the Democrats.


54 posted on 07/04/2008 9:30:48 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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