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Sweden's radical reform of law on prostitution (Punishing customers debated in UK)
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | July 5, 2008 | Olga Craig

Posted on 07/05/2008 4:16:35 PM PDT by Stoat

The Townswomen's Guild are meeting to debate a radical reform in the law on prostitution. Their template? The Swedish model.

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The debate comes as the Government here is drawing up proposals for law reform that could de-criminalise prostitutes who would, instead, be offered help to get out of the vice trade or given anti-social behaviour orders, in favour of a crackdown on men who trawl for sex.

The approach, championed by women ministers such as Harriet Harman, has met with fierce resistance from the Home Office. While Diane Abbot has tabled an Early Day Motion, to date it has only 23 signatories. The question is would such a system work here? At face value, the Swedes have got it right. As Kajsa Wahlberg, head of the human trafficking unit of the Swedish police, says: ''We no longer have a problem with prostitutes. We have a prob-lem with men who buy sex.''

Before the 1999 law was introduced some 2,500 vice girls prowled the streets of Stockholm or worked in brothels. Today there are around 150. The number of punters picked up has fallen 80 per cent. In the nine years since the legislation changed, 1,650 men have been charged with paying for sex. None were jailed, but all faced hefty fines and huge humiliation. Several lost their jobs.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: britain; crime; england; greatbritain; law; prostitution; uk; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 07/05/2008 4:16:37 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat
Nine years ago, Sweden took the step of punishing the men who buy sex rather than the women who sell it. There, it is legal to be a prostitute. But the man who pays for her service is committing an offence.

I understand the whole shaming the "John" aspect of this but what kind of rational being makes a service legal and then makes the customer's actions illegal? Methinks the liberals are really losing it these days.

2 posted on 07/05/2008 4:23:48 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

Right.. It’s either illegal or its not. Plus, there are a lot more johns than there are prostitutes, so if you are going to use the gov’t to stop prostitution, you will get much better results focusing on the prostitutes since there are fewer of them and they are easy to find.

That being said, I don’t think it should be illegal at all.


3 posted on 07/05/2008 4:31:00 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Stoat
("And that's chairman," she chirps. "I'm not a chair, thank you very much; we're not one of those politically correct, lefty organisations.")

LOL! During my term as chairman of an international committee, I was asked one day by one of my Asian colleagues about this business of being a "chair." Why was it I was being designated as a piece of furniture?

4 posted on 07/05/2008 4:31:02 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Dawnsblood; Ron Jeremy; All
Methinks the liberals are really losing it these days.

Indeed.  This FR thread from 2006 may also be of interest.

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5 posted on 07/05/2008 4:49:27 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Dawnsblood

I understand the whole shaming the “John” aspect of this but what kind of rational being makes a service legal and then makes the customer’s actions illegal? Methinks the liberals are really losing it these days.

smoking is legal except just about everywhere it is illegal to smoke.


6 posted on 07/05/2008 4:58:12 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (green is the new mean)
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To: sionnsar

Watch the movie Soylent Green and you’ll understand.


7 posted on 07/05/2008 5:02:22 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: bravo whiskey
smoking is legal except just about everywhere it is illegal to smoke.

U.K. Riot police storm pub after a smoker lights up in protest to the ban

So Mr Vaughan lit up a cigarette in protest. When he refused to extinguish it, staff pressed a panic button behind the bar.

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Staff told me I couldn't smoke, but I said I'd had enough of being pushed around by the Government.

8 posted on 07/05/2008 5:04:51 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Ron Jeremy

The government doesn’t want to stop it, they want to tax it (through fines assessed as punishment after the men are arrested).

And it will be very easy to pass more laws to jack the fines way up to increase revenue. Who is going to care that the customers of prostitutes are getting gouged by the State? Same deal as smokers - the State is just expanding that same philosophy into another sector of the legal economy.


9 posted on 07/05/2008 5:42:13 PM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: Stoat
You punish both the whore and the john.To do anything else is to eliminate any chance of solving the basic problem and it's damn discriminatory as well.

Of course,on the basis of "PC thought" it makes perfect sense because,as *everyone* knows....men are evil and women are victims.

10 posted on 07/05/2008 5:58:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Exactly. Always follow the PC.


11 posted on 07/05/2008 6:19:07 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Stoat

Not that I think this is a bad idea, but I wonder if the same logic is applied to drugs, treatment for the dealers and prison for the users?


12 posted on 07/05/2008 7:00:47 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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