Posted on 07/07/2008 5:08:38 AM PDT by arbooz
A businessman was stunned when he detained a yob for smashing a shop window only to be charged by police with assault. Steve Kink apprehended a thug after catching him breaking into a mobile phone shop late at night. Although the 47-year-old was punched in the face, he managed to pin the offender to the floor. Passers-by called the police while he stood over him until officers arrested the 25-year-old man. Mr Kink, who owns a tattoo parlour, was stunned when he found out the next day the suspect had been let off with a caution for criminal damage. But his shock turned to fury when days later police officers turned up at his house to arrest him for assaulting the thug. He was taken to his local police station and held in a cell for six hours before being interviewed. He was then charged with assault and battery and is due to appear before magistrates next week. Mr Kink said he is appalled at the way he is being treated.
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If he’s going to go to jail for assault, then he needs to get his money’s worth. He needs to make it worth his while and find that punk and show him what a real assault is like.
This makes perfect sense when a society no longer believes in right and wrong.
If all actions are relative, using force to stop someone from doing “wrong” is still using force and needs to be addressed.
This is us in fifteen years.
This is the Britain that our GIs died for in WWII? What a pathetic excuse for a country, certainly not worth our sacrifice.
The world turned upside down.
He looks like a "businessman." I was guessing, "Insurance salesman."
According to the media.
In passing, I was ahhhhh just wonderin here if da yuth was of the Musslim purrrswashon.
Perhaps a Conservative is a Liberal who has been arrested for stopping a mugging (or theft).
No good deed goes unpunished.......
we’re alrqeady there.
Never get a tattoo from a guy named Kink.
Obviously not a Muslim,since he weasn’t charged with a hate
crime!
Britain is being run by the criminals.
If you can’t shoot them, why should you be able to grab them?
I disagree, I think it is being run by unelected judges.
The judges are appasrently in complete control and determined to destroy Britain.
“This is the Britain that our GIs died for in WWII? What a pathetic excuse for a country, certainly not worth our sacrifice.”
Churchill would wonder why he put in all the effort if he saw what had become of his once proud nation.
Unbelievable.
The threat that Western nations face from without (communists, socialists, Islamonazis) is nothing compared to the threat they face from within from idiot, Leftist lawmakers with no moral compass, guided only by feel-good moral relativism and who are motivated by fear of those they consider dangerous AND the inevitable violence that will result from the good people within those nations when they decide they've had enough and so take law and justice into their own hands.
Britain is dead; it just hasn’t finished falling over yet.
Ther can be no assault charge if there is no complainant. The lesson to fed-up Brits is clear: KILL THE B@$+@RD!
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Even though Kink was punched in the face, he did not think to press charges against the vandal.
The vandal - knowing the system far better than Kink - immediately moved to press charges against Kink and copped a plea to a lesser charge of criminal damage.
He worked the system, Kink did not.
Kink should retain counsel and press charges against the vandal for assault and also give a press conference.
The prosecutor will reconsider.
To hear his story and then for him to be arrested APPEARS to be outrageous. We have nothing from the police on this. In the US, I think that the police (unless in ‘hot pursuit’ need a warrant that spells out the offense. I thought that the Brits had the same ‘kind’ of thing but maybe not. Hope we get enlightened about this, right now it looks like he will be paying a more severe penalty than the actual criminal.
Where the left rules, self-defense is the most serious crime. What we normally think of as common criminals are social allies for the left. They help take down the hard-to-manage middle class. Criminals are made by social and political oppression therefore they are not responsible for their actions, the rest of us are. Crime is also defined as the workings of mental illness, and again the “criminal” is not responsible. He is only acting irrationally because society makes him irrational by inequality and oppression so there is no blame for his actions. Self defense, on the other hand, is rational. The rational person restrains or hurts someone deliberately therefore he has evil in his heart and must be incarcerated or re-educated. I have heard this argument since the 60s made by highly educated high IQ liberals. Some of it is explicated by Solzhenytsin in his Gulag books.
What’s the difference between committing a hate crime and plain old I don’t like you crime
Ahh, true. Brits should just pack and leave now. They need to let the thugs and muzzies kill each other off.....then come back and start over.
When will this happen in the USA? Oh wait! It already does! How do we fight back when the government itself, is the enemy?
JoMa
Vigilantism results when the police fail to do their job, or worse, take the side of criminals against honest citizens.
Vigilantism begins non-violently, in an effort to protect citizens from crime, instead of them having to defend themselves. But when the police have fallen that far, most of the time they see the vigilante organization as a bigger threat than the criminals.
This both drives the vigilante organization underground, and forces them to act forcefully against the criminal offenders. Even at this late time, they still try to apprehend and turn over the criminals to the police. But undoubtedly the police just let the criminals go.
This finally drives the vigilante organization to perform punishment against criminals. Then the criminals and police will sometimes gang up against the vigilantes and injure or kill some of them. And that is when the kid gloves come off.
From that point, vigilantes will hang or shoot the criminals, often on sight, and beat police officers who try to stop them. It will be open season on criminal offenders.
It will be very interesting when some Englishmen publicly hang so much as a single, very unsympathetic, repeat offender, violent criminal who has terrorized their neighborhood for months or years, who was given free reign by the police and government to commit horrific acts against others.
Pictures of this violent criminal hanging from a light pole or tree will rattle the government down to its knees, and cause an explosion in public reaction, much of it positive, to the execution.
And an anonymous letter to the newspapers from the vigilante organization, politely asking the government to stop protecting criminals, will get more reaction than a fox in a chicken coop.
But all the vigilante group has to do is remain quiet for a few weeks, and the government will be utterly frustrated. They will still refuse to stop the criminals, however.
From that point, the vigilantes can pick their targets, and criminals will become terrified of them and leave the area.
High IQ does not equivocate common sense. I have an uncle and some cousins with IQ's off the chart. They can't find their way out of a paper bag. And........they're weird.
He looks like a tattoo parlor owner
Well that's part of it especially so with the senior judges here, however we are signed up to the EU human rights charter and that's where the socialist poison always works it's injustice, this was all Tony Blair's fault he signed us up.
The enemy's we face today in this country are feral youth in cases like the one above, multi-culturalism, political correctness plus the encroachment of Islam, this will all end up in the most appalling mess, our old British sturdiness like the stiff upper lip and sayings like "mustn't grumble" that kept up our spirits through WW11 and other troubling times when the enemy was a foreign nation just don't cut the mustard anymore when the enemy is within, we need a new kind of resolve to deal with this filth and we need it quick.
A large amount of urban crime in Britain is committed by "yobs" (as the article referred to) who are often jobless, drunken, white youths who commit various crime (including assault and murder) for no reason or provocation at all. Think "A Clockwork Orange" except in the last 15 years it has gotten really bad.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Re vigilantes:
Nice discussion.
I’d say the most difficult period for the vigilantes is the period of organization. During their nascent period, they are at a disadvantage—they are unaccustomed to violence, and they are unaccustomed to concerted physical action, unlike the police and the criminals.
One of the problems in a disintegrating society is that the law-abiding have been trained to cooperate with the government and are accustomed to acting as individuals. When you can’t trust the government, you eventually are forced to depend on the clan (family, gang, secret organization).
The USA is headed down the same road.
Saw the headline,
instantly knew it was UK.
An IQ only measures the ability to learn.....not the willingness. Therein lies the prob. *chuckle*
“After all, the police and the law are not on your side!”
I think they are on our side....but they are in the ‘clean up the mess’ business, not the ‘prevent crime’ business. Their job is to fill out the forms for the insurance companies, cleanup the bodies, make sure the crime statistics are kept.... all of which has been forced upon them because THEY get the crap sued out of them for doing anything else.
If you want to be a little safer, learn to defend yourself.
The loonies have DEFINITELY gotten charge of the assylum.
You have another problem here in the U.S., and that is many people absolutely worship the law. You'll find many such right here on Free Republic. This mindless obedience to whatever they are told the law is, is one of the most dangerous things facing this country IMO.
Remember the story about the British homeowner who shot and killed a man breaking into his house- an accomplice to the break in got a light sentence and was called in to give testimony about the sentence for the homeowner who was defending himself? This happened a few years back, I’m not sure when, my point in bringing this up is that in Britain if you do kill a punk or thug make sure you dispose of the body well!!!
This definately goes into the BIG load of crap pile. Has England been completely taken over by weak-kneed sissy liberals?
God Bless her.
True, but it is ultimately a self-limiting attitude when the law doesn't work for you, and actively works against you. The self-limiting occurs when the problems affect a large percentage of the population, and a new orthodoxy is required. The situation isn't bad enough now for those too blind to see the need for change. Unfortunately, once it becomes that bad, it's a long and turbulent road until it improves.
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