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Study: Military Gays Don't Undermine Unit Cohesion (MEGA-BARF ALERT)
WJLA News ^ | 7/7/2008

Posted on 07/07/2008 8:16:52 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: xzins

And I know others who survive here only because they can call for help. How many more times will you keep up the name-calling and blatant attempts? Don’t you see some of us are having a serious discussion. How about using Freepmail to get me banned instead of repeating the distractions on the thread directly.


181 posted on 07/09/2008 9:36:00 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: trisham

LOL! Did I leave out code pink, Obama mole?


182 posted on 07/09/2008 9:37:18 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine
I was saying you can't characterize millions of people by the most extreme in their group.

My point was that the extremists are all there is. Sure you know a guy who dresses up for work every day and he and his partner park their nice Volvo's in the driveway of their nicely landscaped house. But trust me, those guys also go to the parades and do all that sick stuff. There are very few "normal" ones. I used to work with several of them, and thought of one of them as a good friend for five years until it all went sour. Without exception these are a group of emotionally troubled people.

Re: Elk Grove. I know that neighborhood well. I am a parishioner at St. Joseph's. Traffic is still only 35 minutes in to the Capitol, so that beats anything from where I grew up in LA. Though we just moved from our home over near Waterman and Sheldon to a nice larger new place in Sloughhouse. Pondering asking JR to change me to SloughHouseDan - haven't decided yet.

183 posted on 07/09/2008 9:38:06 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: purpleraine
No further embellishments are necessary. We get the picture.
184 posted on 07/09/2008 9:38:21 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: purpleraine; xzins; trisham; 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; samiam1972; fanfan
You cannot treat people as individuals as your posts and reaction here prove.

That's odd, there are plenty of people here who don't seem to hate me at all.

185 posted on 07/09/2008 9:38:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: purpleraine
Homosexuals have been in every military that we know of, have they not? And we lost all of those wars because of it?

All wars have a winner and a loser, so this is a moot point.

186 posted on 07/09/2008 9:39:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: trisham

We? Oh you mean the two or three others who followed you over? LOL!


187 posted on 07/09/2008 9:39:44 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: wagglebee

I take it you cannot prove your ascertion, therefore I see no reason to give any credit to your argument. Since we won all those wars, I draw the opposite conclusion.


188 posted on 07/09/2008 9:41:38 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: wagglebee
I now see the problem. It's reading comprehension. You really don't understand the words I am typing. Perhaps some of those you call for help or to join the rat pack will explain it to you.

I tried to engage you in a serious discussion and your argument flamed out early with no explanation or evidence.

I guess I didn't learn my lesson from previous attempts to engage you in adult conversation. Good-bye.

189 posted on 07/09/2008 9:44:08 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine
Oh you mean the two or three others who followed you over? LOL!

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I have no idea to what you are referring, but I suppose that should come as no surprise.

I do find your apparent giddiness a bit odd, however.

190 posted on 07/09/2008 9:44:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: purpleraine; xzins; trisham
I take it you cannot prove your ascertion, therefore I see no reason to give any credit to your argument. Since we won all those wars, I draw the opposite conclusion.

My assertion has been discussed several times on this thread. I see no need to go through it again.

You state that homosexuals have been in ALL armies; well, some of those armies lost.

Do I think the United States will lose wars because of homosexuals? No, I don't. However, the fact that something might not destroy us does not mean that it's a good idea. Homosexuals make up less than 4% of the population, we simply don't need them in the military.

191 posted on 07/09/2008 9:45:11 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Dan stuff like that is prohibited in the military as far as I know. I'm leaving the thread because I don't want to war anymore.

Best wishes in EG! The dems proposed $9 billion in CAL tax increases yesterday. See you on another thread.

192 posted on 07/09/2008 9:45:42 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine
You really don't understand the words I am typing.

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No, it's your pro-homosexual philosophy we have difficulty grasping.

193 posted on 07/09/2008 9:46:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: purpleraine
I now see the problem. It's reading comprehension. You really don't understand the words I am typing. Perhaps some of those you call for help or to join the rat pack will explain it to you.

Yes, comprehending what you write is difficult. Your posts are riddled with grammatical errors and misspelled words.

194 posted on 07/09/2008 9:46:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: purpleraine

“Don’t people have the right to make that choice?”

Yes, people have the right to chose to participate in homosexual behaviour. One consequence of making that choice is to be excluded from serving in the military.

“I don’t think the military should take a stance on anything that’s a choice,....”

Anything? How about drug usage? DUI’s? You really have no concept or understanding of anything regarding the military.

“I just can’t see why somebody’s sexual preference choice would exclude them from fulfilling their responsibility top their country. “

And since it is beyond your understanding, you think that a major policy change is warranted for all branches of the armed forces. You really should just sit back and enjoy the freedom that others are protecting for you and let those of us that did the work worry about how to treat homosexuals in the military.

“In fact, I think it discriminates against heterosexuals to say that only they can die for their country.”

If I chose to risk my life to protect my fellow American’s freedoms, then when the military accepts my voluntary choice they are not discriminating against me. I voluntarily put myself in that situation.

“It just seems like the current policy is idiotic. See a guy with a guy off-base and discharge the guy. That’s wasteful and unnecessary for my money.”

Again, you have no understanding about unit cohesion or esprit de corpse. I think you should concentrate on other wasteful government programs for your money. There are plenty in your own state that you can worry about.

Leave the heavy lifting to those that are out there carrying the weight of your freedom.


195 posted on 07/09/2008 9:57:25 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: CSM
I'm gone. Too many geek chorus distraction on thios thread and I've lost my motivation. I'm sure I'll see you on another therad. I stay away from the zealots, but I'd like to have a discussion with oipposing views. I'd like to explore the war zone blood transfusion issue some guy brought up earlier. Got to get ready for a client and tired of this.

Best wishes!

196 posted on 07/09/2008 10:11:58 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: wagglebee

I don’t hate you Wagglebee.

:-)

Incoming.


197 posted on 07/09/2008 10:16:13 AM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: purpleraine

because trolls are called out publicly

it’s a long and honorable tradition

waiting for the zot


198 posted on 07/09/2008 10:30:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: purpleraine
war zone blood transfusion issue some guy brought up earlier

That would be me, and I've been asserting that for nigh onto 10 years on Free Republic.

199 posted on 07/09/2008 10:34:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: CSM

Thank you for an excellent post, CSM.


200 posted on 07/09/2008 11:45:12 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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