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To: steve-b

That is a huge point -

exactly what harm comes from a belief in an eternal Creator to which you will be held to account?

What harm comes from believing that humans are beings created specifically in His image as eternal souls instead of an accident of genetic mutation, no different than animals?


4 posted on 07/08/2008 12:08:49 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

Plenty, if it bolsters (for example) the belief that you’re supposed to kill infidels so that your final “account” will read “You Win 72 Virgins”.


10 posted on 07/08/2008 12:17:29 PM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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To: MrB

Outside of Science, there’s no harm at all. But inside of science you’ll have to subjugate God to all the same standards and tests that any other theory has. Cause/Effect, replication, etc...


13 posted on 07/08/2008 12:21:23 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: MrB
What harm comes from believing that humans are beings created specifically in His image as eternal souls instead of an accident of genetic mutation, no different than animals?

Nothing. But it's not science.

21 posted on 07/08/2008 12:35:19 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: MrB; All

“What harmcomes from a belief in an eternal Creator to which you will be held to account?”

The various parties in the vicious and deadly religious wars of centuries past in Europe all believed in a Creator to which one had to account. Because the had various doctrinal differences they felt it was just fine and even necessary to slaughter hundreds of thousands of people who did not have the same nuance of belief. The survivors fled by the millions to the New World, and decided to keep religion out of politics because they knew the evils that could be promoted in the name of the Creator.

For that matter both Sunni and Shia believe in a Creator named Allah to whom they are accountable. The have killed each other by the hundreds of thousands in recent times.

Let all who wish to believe believe, and let those who don’t alone. Only tolerance will preserve our country as envisioned by our founding fathers.


82 posted on 07/08/2008 10:19:03 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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