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Man uses hydrogen to increase gas mileage
www.leadertelegram.com ^ | 7-7-08 | By Pamela Powers

Posted on 07/08/2008 12:45:19 PM PDT by Red Badger

Greg Raleigh of Elk Mound gets nine miles more per gallon of gas from his 2002 Ford Escort after installing parts that help the engine run on hydrogen.

ELK MOUND - Greg Raleigh is spending less time at the gas pump and saving money thanks to technology and a quart-size canning jar.

Raleigh has installed what is called hydrogen injection technology - or hydrogen on demand - in his 2002 Ford Escort, improving his gas mileage by 29 percent.

The car was getting 31 miles per gallon and now gets 40, Raleigh said.

"I'm saving about $20 a week at current gas prices," he said. "That's $1,000 a year. It will take me about four or five months to get a return on the investment."

Raleigh learned about the technology on the Internet, where he bought the plans and tools. The total cost was about $400.

A quart-size container under the hood is filled with water and a quarter-teaspoon of baking soda, along with some electrical components. Vacuum and electricity from the car engine produce hydrogen and oxygen gas. The gas is sent through the intake manifold.

"The mix of hydrogen gas increases the volatility or explosiveness of the fuel," Raleigh said, noting it is like using a higher-octane fuel. "You're adding energy to enhance that octane value."

An extra computer circuit board makes sure the car's computer understands the exhaust is cleaner than regular gas to ensure mileage increases.

The process also cuts emissions, including soot, carbon dioxide and nitrous oxides, said Raleigh, 43, who is operations manager for Extrusion Dies, a tool and die company in Chippewa Falls.

In Korea these types of systems are being required for large diesel trucks to cut emissions, Raleigh said.

About every four to five days he has to add more water and baking soda, which takes him about a minute.

It took him about 80 hours to understand the system and install it. He also installed one on his father's car, and it took about 12 hours.

"I did it because I have a series of projects I want to do," Raleigh said, noting his goal is to become greener and protect natural resources.

Raleigh in December also installed a wind turbine in his yard to help cut his electrical energy consumption by about 26 percent.

His next project is to encourage convenience stores to provide reusable stainless steel mugs for filtered water and cut the use of disposable plastic bottles.

Jo Hayes, a neighbor of Raleigh's, plans to have him install hydrogen on demand in her 1995 Jeep Cherokee in the next month.

"It will be a way to save gas and a way to save money," she noted. "I am tired of the high gas prices. I think this is really going to help."

She gets about 18 miles per gallon from her Jeep. "Greg figured in eight fills I'll have paid for it," she said.

Installing hydrogen on demand may not be for everyone.

"You can damage your car if you don't know what you are doing," Raleigh said.

The catalytic convertor could melt, and in rare cases the valves could burn out.

The origin of the technology dates to the 1980s, Raleigh said.

In late July and early August, a group called JONAH will hold educational events at Joel's Water Street Auto in Eau Claire to show people the hydrogen on demand in Raleigh's car and explain how to get the plans and parts.

JONAH, which stands for Joining Our Neighbors Advancing Hope, is made up of eight Chippewa Valley churches. One of the group's goals is to discuss environmental issues.

"Our intent is to be educators, not installers," Raleigh said.

Powers can be reached at 715-235-9018 or pamela.powers@ecpc.com.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: auto; energy; fuel; transportation; water
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Okay, why is this man lying? or is he?.............
1 posted on 07/08/2008 12:45:20 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

And he uses cellphones to pop popcorn.


2 posted on 07/08/2008 12:46:50 PM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasnÂ’t enough experience.)
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To: Red Badger

This story is atleast plausable.


3 posted on 07/08/2008 12:47:49 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Red Badger
You couls try this: http://www.halfwaterhalfgas.com/hydra.php

4 posted on 07/08/2008 12:49:04 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Red Badger
An extra computer circuit board makes sure the car's computer understands the exhaust is cleaner than regular gas to ensure mileage increases.

There's your source of the mileage increase.

5 posted on 07/08/2008 12:49:19 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Red Badger

One of our local car dealers is offering this gizmo as an option.


6 posted on 07/08/2008 12:49:52 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Red Badger
noting it is like using a higher-octane fuel

Which is useless unless the engine was designed to take advantage of high-octane fuel, mainly being able to run with a higher compression ratio. If it only has the effect of upping octane, then it would only be useful in that you could run a high-octane engine on regular gas.

7 posted on 07/08/2008 12:51:48 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: weegee

And he uses cellphones to pop popcorn.

And you don't?...............

8 posted on 07/08/2008 12:51:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Yo-Yo

You think they are screwing with the computer’s innards?...........


9 posted on 07/08/2008 12:53:57 PM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Red Badger

Mythbusters (and Popular Mechanics) zotted these claims.


10 posted on 07/08/2008 12:53:57 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

and had fun doing it.


11 posted on 07/08/2008 12:55:21 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mnehrling

http://www.silobreaker.com/DocumentReader.aspx?Item=5_877637385


12 posted on 07/08/2008 12:55:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Red Badger

IMO, since he paid all that money and stuff, he has changed the way he drives, and 100% of his increased mileage is due to those changed driving habits.

IMO.

Nythbusters busted the hydrogen add-on some time ago. Busted it hard. Here:

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2006/05/exploding_trousers_great_gas_conspiracy.html


13 posted on 07/08/2008 12:55:45 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Yo-Yo

What I don’t understand is why everyone isn’t getting new computer programming if that leads to such a large increase? Something isn’t computing with this HHO stuff. I keep reading about people getting increases in mileage yet everyone here says its impossible from a physics standpoint.


14 posted on 07/08/2008 12:56:05 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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You think they are screwing with the computer’s innards?...........

Yup.

15 posted on 07/08/2008 12:56:33 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: savedbygrace

I’m ham-fisted today.

Nythbusters = Mythbusters


16 posted on 07/08/2008 12:56:43 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Red Badger

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/1802932.html?series=19


17 posted on 07/08/2008 12:57:17 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Red Badger

FRAUD and complete BS.

This has been debunked so many places I’m not sure where to start. And it always winds up being some backyard mechanic with fantastic claims and ZERO dyno tests to prove any of it. And of course the ‘big oil coverup’ nonsense is not far behind.

If this crap did anything remotely close to what it claimed, even 10% of the claimed improvement it would be standard equipment. Automakers spend billions trying to meet CAFE standards, but something on the Intraweb can do better than all of them put together. What absolute rubbish.


18 posted on 07/08/2008 12:58:23 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: Red Badger
An extra computer circuit board makes sure the car's computer understands the exhaust is cleaner than regular gas to ensure mileage increases.

Sounds like he's spoofing the O2 sensor(s). Tricking the computer into leaning out the mixture would yield an mpg increase, but as for the hydrogen foolishness, I ask again - how is that small apparatus going to create that much HHO?

19 posted on 07/08/2008 12:59:07 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
A lot of the computer programming is because of emission regulations. I bet running a straight exhaust with no muffler or catalytic converter would bump your mileage up a little too.. but most States won't allow it.
20 posted on 07/08/2008 12:59:14 PM PDT by mnehring
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