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To: Defiant
The whole concept of “war” has become obsolete. War departments over the world were converted into “defense” departments. No war has been declared by the U.S. since WWII and I'm not aware any other country has made a formal declaration of war since then. Maybe when the Arabs attacked Israel in 1948?

So, it's daft to try to reinvent an outdated concept. They're just a bunch of Bush-haters creating a system they hope would have thwarted him from going into Iraq. But Congress was asked to vote on that and said yes. Oh, never mind!

10 posted on 07/08/2008 1:49:35 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: colorado tanker
Osama Bin Laden declared war on the US in 1998. But you are right, most other nations do not declare war; that was a concept of European nations that has since gone out of favor.

I think having Congress authorize the President to wage war meets the requirements of the Constitution--it is the functional equivalent of a Congressional declaration of war. The only difference is that we are not actually at war when the resolution passes; we are just authorizing the President to initiate it at a later time if he so chooses. In essence, Congress has delegated the actual initiation of war to the President, for that particular conflict. There's no formal "declaration", but when the President acts following Congressional authorization, a. war exists; and b. Congress approved it.

One corollary would be that if Congress rescinds an authorization BEFORE war has begun, then the President no longer is authorized to act. Once war has begun, however, the President as commander in chief is responsible for fighting it, and cannot be made to stop. Congress' role is to fund or defund it, and to approve any treaty that results.

11 posted on 07/08/2008 2:00:58 PM PDT by Defiant (Leave it to the Dems to nominate someone so bad I may be forced to vote for McCain.)
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