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CA: Democrats detail tax increase proposals (Stick it to the "rich" and corporations. Brilliant!)
Sac Bee ^ | 7/8/08 | Judy Lin and Dan Smith

Posted on 07/08/2008 9:59:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Democrats on Tuesday proposed billions in tax increases on businesses and high earners to help bridge California's budget shortfall.

The proposed hikes include rolling back the dependent child income tax credit expanded in the 1990s, creating two higher income tax brackets for the state's biggest earners and increasing corporate taxes.

The long-awaited list of revenue proposals faces near certain defeat, however, as Republican lawmakers have repeatedly said they are unified in their opposition to any tax increases. Approving a budget and increasing taxes requires a two-thirds vote, which means GOP support is mandatory.

"I guarantee you it will be a troubled and very challenged proposal on the Assembly floor," said Assemblyman Roger Niello, a member of the two-house budget conference committee that finished its work over Republican opposition Tuesday. "After we're done (rejecting the tax increases), we can all go back to square one to figure out how we get a supermajority vote on this budget."

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers have yet to strike a compromise on how to close a $15.2 billion budget shortfall in the $101 billion general fund. The entire budget proposed by the governor is $144 billion, including bond and special funds.

Lawmakers missed a June 15 constitutional deadline for passing a balanced spending plan for the fiscal year that began July 1.

In earlier drafts of the budget, majority Democrats presented plans that called for as much as $11 billion in added revenues. Tuesday's proposals amount to $8.2 billion, plus another $1.5 billion from a proposed tax amnesty plan.

Democrats have proposed before -- a 2005 move failed to receive a single GOP vote -- the creation of 10 percent and 11 percent tax brackets for high earners. The highest tax bracket now is 9.3 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; democrats; govwatch; proposals; taxes; taxincrease
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1 posted on 07/08/2008 9:59:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Tax hikes would probably reopen old wounds and California would once again start hemorrhaging businesses and wealthy individuals to nearby states with saner taxes.

The end result is increased costs as Democrats push for more welfare style giveaways to the poor to win their votes, while revenues will drop as state GDP drops as a consequence of businesses leaving.


2 posted on 07/08/2008 10:02:53 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: NormsRevenge

California is such a wonderful state and I love living here, but God our politicians are SOOOOOO stupid.


3 posted on 07/08/2008 10:06:46 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: djsherin

I agree, even for all the smoke in the air and airheads in elected offices, put there by airheads.


4 posted on 07/08/2008 10:08:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Rich = You make money!


5 posted on 07/08/2008 10:10:37 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s such a shame. And then there’s the illegals... yeah we’ve got some problems.


6 posted on 07/08/2008 10:12:20 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: NormsRevenge

“Why would I trust this group of arrogant, ignorant blow hard with one more cent of earning?They have demonstrated so clearly their disdain of working people in this state, that I am utterly disgusted. Targeting businesses, the wealthy would not be DOA if they were part of a concerted effort of spending cuts, government effiiciencies and reform. If this came with re-districting reform, it would probably fly. By coming out of the gate with tax increases just demonstrates the communication gap. Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus and State Legislators are from Uranus. We deserve better..”

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7 posted on 07/08/2008 10:13:35 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: djsherin

they know three words, TAX, TAX TAX.


8 posted on 07/08/2008 10:15:46 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: NormsRevenge
Sacto is a snake pit of special interests. Any tax increase would quickly be spent in an orgy of socialistic joy. They would be back at the well in seconds, touting how state now “wants higher taxes”, new political environment, etc. Guess they forgot that the state tossed out a governor for a couple of hundred bucks in car registration.

Indeed, legislators often talk about how people will pay anything to live in this state, with its great weather, resources, etc. They feel they can tax away, no problem.

9 posted on 07/08/2008 10:39:42 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: NormsRevenge

I have come to the conclusion that liberals are hopelessly retarded.


10 posted on 07/08/2008 10:43:07 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm so glad I left California for Idaho. In 2000, the feds took $70,000 in federal income tax, California took $19,500. Never again. My income and firearms are safe from the socialists in Sacramento.
11 posted on 07/08/2008 10:46:21 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: LaineyDee

From what I understand , the biggest problem with Calif. budget is that spending has increased faster than tax revenue in recent years. It’s not that taxes aren’t high enough, it’s that spending has increased, and now they have to look for how to pay for the increased spending.

We’ve been hearing in the news about potential hardships and teacher layoffs and cutting library hours. Basic financial management isn’t happening in Sacramento.

Last years budget was balanced. It should be relatively simple for the legislature and governor to sit down and see what caused the imbalance. I know state gov’t complains about unfunded mandates from Washington, or unbudgeted costs to fight last year’s fires. But whatever the case, they should be able to zero in on the cause. It should not be a big mystery.


12 posted on 07/08/2008 10:50:55 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: NormsRevenge

These same bleeding hearts wail and moan about corporate out-sourcing. DUH. Take it to the national level - worse yet. BHO proposes the same garbage.


13 posted on 07/08/2008 11:00:49 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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...didn’t the governor out there say something about not raising taxes?

Oh wait, they should call them “fees”. :)


14 posted on 07/08/2008 11:10:33 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If I ran a biz like they do....I'd be fired for stupidity, to say the least. They don't want to figure it out or be responsible to their constituents. Sad.
15 posted on 07/08/2008 11:10:42 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: coconutt2000
Tax hikes would probably reopen old wounds and California would once again start hemorrhaging businesses and wealthy individuals to nearby states with saner taxes.

I don't know whether we are in the "wealthy" class, but DW and I took our $150k+ retirement income and moved to Oregon.

State taxes were big reason # 1. We pay lower income tax, lower property tax, despite Prop 13, and no sales tax.

Reason # 2 was shall-issue concealed carry. The older I get, the less able I am to fight off a young tough with my bare hands. Plus there are enough license holders in OR so the young toughs are much more polite...

Best of all, DW gets a CA state pension. It is inflation-protected, and someone else is paying the taxes to finance it.

16 posted on 07/08/2008 11:13:56 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It's the same old gambit. Cut back the visible stuff that people care about (police, fire, libraries, schools) while cutting nothing from illegal alien pork programs. There is lots of room to cut inappropriate spending, but that never happens. The game is to instill fear and anger about cherished "programs" to justify another tax hike. I've seen it many times before in San Diego. Some things never change.

All that special funding for greenhouse gas BS and stem cell research has no business in the budget. Neither does funding for abortions and gay pride parades. Subsidies for professional sports teams have no legitimate claim on the taxpayer.

17 posted on 07/08/2008 11:17:23 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: NormsRevenge
The tax increases are DOA!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 07/09/2008 12:26:53 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: coconutt2000

Tax hikes would probably reopen old wounds and California would once again start hemorrhaging businesses and wealthy individuals to nearby states with saner taxes.

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That will be good for us in Utah.

More business, more jobs.


19 posted on 07/09/2008 1:09:53 AM PDT by fproy2222
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To: Myrddin

Same experience brought us to Nevada...


20 posted on 07/09/2008 3:27:58 AM PDT by sailor4321
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