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DA clears Ramsey family
The Denver Post ^ | July 9, 2008 | The Denver Post

Posted on 07/09/2008 12:49:51 PM PDT by blu

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To: kellynla
Someone in John Ramsey’s office must have been connected to have requested the EXACT amount of John Ramsey’s

The killer would have had to call John's office and asked. I'm sure the staff was quizzed if they told a stranger who called what John's bonus was.

41 posted on 07/09/2008 1:23:41 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Made on a Mac)
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To: krb

Assuming the parents had no direct involvement in her death, there’s a reasonable suspicion that their decision to parade her around in pageants all over the country in adult make-up and clothes (including a Vegas showgirl costume) may have drawn her to the attention of a dangerous pervert who ended up killing her. I shudder to think about the composition of the audiences at those pageants.


42 posted on 07/09/2008 1:24:33 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: silverleaf

Boy, the Elizabeth Smart case. There’s another one that we’ll never really know the truth about IMO.


43 posted on 07/09/2008 1:24:35 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Made on a Mac)
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To: blu

Let’s try and imagine for a moment what could have happened to the Ramsey’s if the father hadn’t been well-to-do and able to bring in high-powered legal representation to fend off the authorities and the media.

And please don’t lump all Colorado police departments together with the Boulder PD. Boulder is Colorado’s equivalent of Berkeley or Madison. The town has been run by uber leftists for many years and law enforcement has been effectively emmasculated. It is no shock to me how badly the investigation has been bungled.


44 posted on 07/09/2008 1:29:38 PM PDT by scory
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To: reagan_fanatic

Its sad America has come to this. Just look at all the reality shows judging people based on beliefs.


45 posted on 07/09/2008 1:32:08 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: blu

Wasn’t something also found on a basement window frame?


46 posted on 07/09/2008 1:34:33 PM PDT by Riverine
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To: EnquiringMind

i still think patsy did it and wrote note. mary lacy is a janet reno clone
except dumber. i think ramsey family has worked to find a way to
have a misleading conclusion. the note sounded just like patsy.
i think the crime is that the ramsey’s got away with it.

WIFE O’BUCKHEAD


47 posted on 07/09/2008 1:38:48 PM PDT by Buckhead (making the comments buckhead won't make!)
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To: Perdogg
If you have read anything about this case, you'd know that there was NO evidence pointing to anyone but the Ramseys. No footprints (in the snow), motive, and even the ransom letter had Patsy “written” all over it. I am not convinced that this prosecutor knows anything.
48 posted on 07/09/2008 1:41:22 PM PDT by razzle
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To: XeniaSt

Why do I assume they’re not? Excuse me, are you on medication? Did I say I was assuming something? They are not democrats. What are you assuming, you certainly are making an ass out of you and yourself.


49 posted on 07/09/2008 1:43:20 PM PDT by mallardx
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To: mallardx
The Ramseys were one of the few Republican families in town.

You got it. I knew the police were on a jihad the minute I tried to understand the case, and I knew politics was the root of the problem.

The Boulder detective had only investigated ONE murder case before the Ramsays. Lou Smit (the detective who spoke out in favor of the Ramsays and is being vindicated today) had solved over TWO HUNDRED and his approach was totally logical.

The Freepers who were adamant about the Ramsays being the killers were opinionated, numerous and WRONG!

50 posted on 07/09/2008 1:50:50 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Pontiac
It would be interesting to know what they scraped and how they would know that the DNA found by this method would be the DNA of the perp.

A good question. I have followed a number of cases with this in mind. It is that prosecuting authorities were caught like a deer in the headlights, with this great breakthrough in DNA.

All the defence initially had to do was to find a DNA that did not identify the accused. So far so good- indeed why not?

A case in Canada when a poor teen age girl was strangled. She was the clerk at an all night coffee shop in Winnipeg. A pair of gloves was found nearby. The defence set up a scream, saying "it was NOT his DNA". No indeed, a man was found not guilty after two trials and got over two million dollars compensation. I lost a brand new glove near a liquor store once. Never found it again. If the liquor store was hit and an employee murdered, my glove could have exonerated the perp. This using that logic.

We now know that if a factory operative sneezed over a garment, or quickly wiped their fingers on it, then packed it- DNA would be on the garment.

I am sorry for the Ramseys. That ransom note haunts me to this day. I cannot believe that an outsider wrote that note.

51 posted on 07/09/2008 1:52:10 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: XeniaSt
John Ramsay ran for office on a Republican ticket.

He was a successful and wealthy businessman, a Republican and his wife and daughter were involved in beauty pageants.

Enough for democrats in power to assume they were totally evil.

52 posted on 07/09/2008 1:53:18 PM PDT by what's up
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To: scory

It was proven that Patsy Ramsey wrote the abduction note. Why did she do that?


53 posted on 07/09/2008 1:53:34 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: BunnySlippers

Yeah, I have to say that the note screams involvement by the family in the coverup. One thing everyone can agree on is that the lengthy note was written after the fact to make it look like a botched kidnapping. The reference to 118,000, SBTC, “and hence” sentence structure, and the fact that Patsy didn’t even hesitate to call family and friends as well is all enough to give one pause. It’s certainly not hard to see why certain people think Patsy was involved. I’d say the repitition of this particular DNA sample is enough to prove involvement by an outside party, but that alone shouldn’t exhonerate the family from the coverup. Let’s not forget that the first time this DNA was sampled it was in a mixed blood sample on Benet’s underwear, not in an area where contact was only assumed - that one hit might have been a mistake, but to find it again on two other spots of a different piece of clothing? That screams outside involvement.


54 posted on 07/09/2008 1:56:23 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter

And the 9/11 hang up call several days prior to JB’s death ... from the Ramsey home.


55 posted on 07/09/2008 1:58:50 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Made on a Mac)
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To: razzle
No footprints (in the snow)

The snow was not waist-deep as the police led you to believe.

In fact, it was not even 3 inches deep.

In fact, the yard had large snowless patches and there was NO SNOW just outside the window or on the sidewalks.

Thus, no footprints were left by the killer.

56 posted on 07/09/2008 2:01:34 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Peter Libra
We now know that if a factory operative sneezed over a garment, or quickly wiped their fingers on it, then packed it- DNA would be on the garment.

Ah, but this DNA hit was found on two different garments - on a mixed blood stain on her underwear AND twice on her pajama thighs. The odds that a single male employee handled both garments and managed to get his DNA in all three places on both garments where the investigators looked seems extremely unlikely. It seems even more unreasonable to assume that the DNA detected in the blood stain was not related to the person whose blood it was.
57 posted on 07/09/2008 2:02:27 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: BunnySlippers

And why would the person who wrote the fake ransom note feel comfortable enough to write a multiple page note with multiple drafts using the family’s own pen and paper unless they either had no intention of leaving the house after the murder or knew the family wouldn’t be surprised to find them in their house late at night? It’s very odd behavior indeed. Whoever did the cover up at least was part of the family or was so close to the family that they were welcome in the home at any hour.


58 posted on 07/09/2008 2:07:41 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter
Ah,but this DNA hit was found on two different garments- on a mixed blood stan on her underwear AND twice on her pajama thighs.

Thank you for your well informed and balanced reply. I would be only too happy to see the final identification of that DNA. I am mindful of the agony of the Scottish couple whose daughter vanished in Portugal. To have this nightmare tragedy be turned into accusations must be the most awful and unwanted addition.

That DNA will stand as an answer- one way or the other.

59 posted on 07/09/2008 2:14:36 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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Here's my theory, and it's just my non-expert outsider opinion of course. The unidentified male with no criminal history accidentally kills JonBenet while doing something he shouldn't have been doing with her. John Doe threatens to tell the police that the family let him meet, see, and/or get closer to their daughter than they should have let him, and therefore they are responsible for their daughter's death. John Doe forces Patsy to write the ransom note or he'll tell all. Out of her guilt Patsy writes the note that night and never tells anyone the identity of the killer.

There, I'm done pretending to be matlock for the day ;).
60 posted on 07/09/2008 2:20:55 PM PDT by messierhunter
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