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Senate Backs Wiretap Bill to Shield Phone Companies
New York Times ^ | 9 July 2008 | By ERIC LICHTBLAU

Posted on 07/09/2008 1:05:04 PM PDT by shrinkermd

WASHINGTON — More than two and a half years after the disclosure of President’s Bush’s domestic eavesdropping program set off a furious national debate, the Senate gave final approval on Wednesday afternoon to broadening the government’s spy powers and providing legal immunity for the phone companies that took part in the wiretapping program.

The plan, approved by a vote of 69 to 28, marked one of Mr. Bush’s most hard-won legislative victories in a Democratic-led Congress where he has had little success of late. And it represented a stinging defeat for opponents on the left who had urged Democratic leaders to stand firm against the White House after a months-long impasse.

“I urge my colleagues to stand up for the rule of law and defeat this bill,” Senator Russell D. Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, said in closing arguments.

But Senator Christopher S. Bond, the Missouri Republican who is vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said there was nothing to fear in the bill “unless you have Al Qaeda on your speed dial.”

Supporters of the plan, which revised the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, said that the final vote reflected both political reality and legal practicality. Wiretapping orders approved by a secret court under the previous version of the surveillance law were set to begin expiring in August unless Congress acted, and many Democrats were wary of going into their political convention in Denver next month with the issue hanging over them—handing the Republicans a potent political weapon.

So instead, Congress approved what amounted to the biggest restructuring

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; 1984; 5thamendment; congress; counterterrorism; fisa; fourthamendment; governmentspying; notbreaking; oldnews; policestate; privacy; senate; surveillance; telecom; ussenate; wiretap; wot
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To: shrinkermd
Here's the list of Democrats voting for the bill:

Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)

and 'Independent Democrat' Lieberman (ID-CT)

21 posted on 07/09/2008 1:20:51 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: shrinkermd
I looked over at DU and they are vowing to stop Obama donations and redirect them to the ACLU.

The kids are having a fit.

22 posted on 07/09/2008 1:22:24 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: traviskicks

Those who give up a liberty for a little temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.

Benjamin was a smart guy. I don’t trust the government to stop at this. Once the government gives itself power, it rarely gives it back.


23 posted on 07/09/2008 1:23:18 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: TexasCajun

The ACLU is only $10 away from having this ruled unconstitutional.


24 posted on 07/09/2008 1:24:08 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: shrinkermd
LOL. Omamba rapidly running right.

Soon he will placing himself right of McCain, advocating a flag burning amendment and saying David Duke is a friend of his.

25 posted on 07/09/2008 1:27:39 PM PDT by what's up
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To: shrinkermd

Barack Hussein Obama thinks he will be Mr President Obama in January. If you were a power-hungry stealth-communist on the cusp of assuming the highest office in the nation, with grand visions for remaking America, which way would you vote?


26 posted on 07/09/2008 1:30:33 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: shrinkermd
Something to think about: Why did Hillary vote no?

Put aside what she thinks about the merits of the bill, and put aside her liberal ideology for a minute. The vote won't make a difference in terms of her next Senate run, and will be long forgotten by 2012. By voting yes instead of no today, she would have decreased the left-wing heat on Obama (not much, but a little). Instead, she opted to draw a contrast between him and her with the vote. It's almost as if she's still in the running to be the Dem's nominee this year.

27 posted on 07/09/2008 1:37:44 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: TexasCajun

Hehehe, I was just going to post the same list, I see you got it from the same place I did... :-)


28 posted on 07/09/2008 1:38:17 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: shrinkermd

“I urge my colleagues to stand up for the rule of law and defeat this bill,” Senator Russell D. Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, said in closing arguments.

Why would Feingold be worried about the rule of law? McCain-Feingold violates the 1st Amendment and he doesn’t seem concerned about that at all.


29 posted on 07/09/2008 1:54:09 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: shrinkermd

How did McCain vote?


30 posted on 07/09/2008 1:55:22 PM PDT by Taking Congress back in 2010
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To: traviskicks
In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, 'Make us your slaves, but feed us.' --Dosteovsky's 'Grand Inquisitor'
31 posted on 07/09/2008 1:56:23 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: Califelephant

You are correct....... Her NAY vote was a great big “neener neener, I told you so” to the left.


32 posted on 07/09/2008 1:57:56 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: TexasCajun

Do you have a link to the full vote rundown? Thanks.


33 posted on 07/09/2008 2:01:54 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: shrinkermd
Obama promised to filibuster it but now has just thrown all his “civil liberties” base under the bus.
34 posted on 07/09/2008 2:02:32 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Califelephant

I’ll add that it was textbook Clintonomics for her to vote that way. We all know darn well she could care less about FISA and she voted NAY to stick it to Hussein and his followers. Just like all her votes and everything she says and does ~ strictly politics for her advantage.


35 posted on 07/09/2008 2:05:28 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: shrinkermd

Welcome to 1984. It’s telling that not a single Republican senator voted against this.


36 posted on 07/09/2008 2:06:31 PM PDT by PastorTony
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To: tobyhill

>>>>Obama promised to filibuster it but now has just thrown all his “civil liberties” base under the bus.<<<<<<

They got him the nomination.... he don’t need them anymore.
Now he has to concentrate on Joe Sixpack in the center.


37 posted on 07/09/2008 2:09:29 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: PastorTony

Yes very telling, TROLL.

Telling that they want to protect your sorry ass even though you hate them.


38 posted on 07/09/2008 2:11:06 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: envisio

So hypocritical, because if this same bill was introduced by a Democratic president all the fake conservatives would be screaming about how it is unconstitutional, but because it’s Bush’s bill we should all be assured that the government will only use this to protect us.


39 posted on 07/09/2008 2:14:15 PM PDT by PastorTony
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To: PastorTony

What you say is redundant because no democrat is going to put forth a bill to protect us from terrorists.

OH, I forgot, terrorists don’t really exist, right?


40 posted on 07/09/2008 2:17:46 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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