Posted on 07/09/2008 6:39:05 PM PDT by xDGx
Guns and Health
Jeffrey M. Drazen, M.D., Stephen Morrissey, Ph.D., and Gregory D. Curfman, M.D.
The Supreme Court has launched the country on a risky epidemiologic experiment. The announcement by the Court last month of its decision in District of Columbia v. Heller,1 which struck down a ban on handgun ownership in the nation's capital, has set the stage for legal challenges to gun regulation in other major American cities. Such challenges have already been introduced in Chicago and San Francisco. If there is a widespread loosening of gun regulations, we will learn over the next few years — in a before-and-after experiment — whether the laws we had in place had a significant impact in mitigating death and injury from handguns. In our opinion, there is little reason to expect an optimistic result; research has shown and logic would dictate that fewer restrictions on handguns will result in a substantial increase in injury and death...
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What the heck does the NE journal of medicine have to do with Constitutional firearms rights??
“...In our opinion, there is little reason to expect an optimistic result; research has shown and logic would dictate that fewer restrictions on handguns will result in a substantial increase in injury and death...”
Funny, in places that already have “liberal” licensing and carry laws the incidents of violent crime are much lower.
Hmmm, I wonder why that is?
-DT
We already had that "experiment" when nearly 40 states eased restrictions on carrying firearms and no matter what the Brady Bunch tells you, it HAS NOT INCREASED CRIMES.
Other than the second ammendment guaranteeing their first ammendment right to speak freely, nothing.
-DT
Ha! Good one. back during the Co-Presidency guns were looked at as a public health problem, so NEJM, AMA, and others got into the fray with loads of studies and articles.
The “you are 40 times more likely to be shot with your own gun” study was among these.
Now in desperation the antis are pulling out all the stops lest people get the idea that choice includes choice in self defense, not just in babies.
Also, funny that the places which have the tighest licensing and carry laws have violent crime rates which are much higher than those with "liberal" licensing.
Exactly!
Look to Philthydelphia, D.C., Chicago, or Detroit for real world examples.
-DT
Of course handgun deaths are going to go up. So what? The number of deaths is what is the key. Men usually choose guns to commit suicide with, women usually pills or something. Will men not commit suicide because handguns aren't available? Any respectable publication should understand the concept of composition fallacy. In their non-political studies they wouldn't consider facing this kind of peer review with such bs arguments.
Oh yeah xDGx. Don't change the title of an article you publish. Use brackets or something to indicate your alterations to a title. Accuracy is a big deal here on FR.
This may very well turn out to be true. The HUGE caveat here though is that those injured and killed will be criminal predators rather than innocent victims. But I guess to your average libtard, we are all guilty of something so I wouldn't expect them to see the distinction.
“What the heck does the NE journal of medicine have to do with Constitutional firearms rights??”
They have been anti gun since at least the early 90’s.
So I wonder how they feel about the mass deaths due to misdiagnosis, medical misadventure, and wrongly prescribed drugs?
The stats on doctor’s negligent deaths reach into the 100,000’s...
“...The HUGE caveat here though is that those injured and killed will be criminal predators rather than innocent victims...”
Thus making it a net gain. Works for me.
-DT
“...The stats on doctor’s negligent deaths reach into the 100,000’s...”
Which, if I’m not mistaken is about 7 times the homicide rate.
Maybe we need to take another look at doctors access to dangerous drugs.
Yep I calculated it one time, maybe I can dig up the figures, but it seems like it came out that you are statistically around 9,000 time more likely to die from inept doctors as you are from being shot
Putting aside liberal "research" and "logic" for a moment, this sound much like the squeals of "piles of bodies" and rivers of blood in the streets" when many states moved from "may" issue to "shall" issue regulations for concealed carry permits.
Of course all of the liberal fears were proven unfounded, but that merely makes the screaming liberal mind all the more fearful.
Bunch of liberal idealogues. The “jury” has been back for yeras, with the data collected from the states that passed CCW and saw crime rates DROP.
thanks for the title edit mods :)
Since when do liberals worry about sociological experimentation. Feminism, gay marriage, animal rights, outlawing corporal punishment at home and school, ridiculing religion, denigrating traditional marriage and family, multiculturalism, gays in the military, etc. All of their radical changes have irreversibly damaged society.
From opensecrets.org, one of the author’s donations:
Morrissey, Stephen
Brookline,MA Massachusetts Medical Society 8/6/04 $500 Kerry, John (D)
I didn’t try the other two. but you get the point.
And doctors cause about 9,000 times the accidental deaths that guns do. Whatever shall we do with these dangerous carbon-based threats to our safety?
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