Posted on 07/10/2008 7:54:41 AM PDT by XR7
The Bible also warns me to avoid the snare of the “Fowler”...
It never did, which is as it should be.
What about the women? That is also condemned
A Michigan man is suing Zondervan Publishing and Thomas Nelson Publishing, claiming biblical references to homosexuality as a sin violate his constitutional rights and have caused him emotional pain and mental instability.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
They tried to make it against the law in Canada to preach on those same Bible verses...
“Hate speech”
Emotional pain and mental instability are probably the best things he has to look forward too....
Standards of morality certainly do change over time. In many instances what one generation finds criminal merely outrages the next, which is followed by irritation, toleration, and then acceptance. Look at homosexuality...I have every confidence that gay marriage will be the law of the land at the national level within 20 years, if not sooner.
Really?
Is that really what the Koran says?
At the very least, this implies that you are sympathetic to Krieger's comment about heads, shoulders, and the separation thereof. I will note that you said "Koran" and not "Koran (and Sharia law)", though.
So, in the interest of clarity...just what is your position regarding the penalty that should be exacted (if any) for the act of homosexual sex?
It never did, which is as it should be.
The Declaration of Independence recognized that certain unalienable rights we have are endowed by our "Creator."
The Constitution serves to prevent those rights from being encroached upon by government.
So, yes, our founding fathers recognized that the rights which we have pre-exist any constitution, many of them expounded upon in the Bible, such as the right to "life, liberty, and property," which our founders regarded as fundamental.
It would appear so.
WHAT is your point?
That standards of morality change over time. Why does my pointing out something that's objectively true get you so worked up?
The fact that people change their minds over time to suit themselves with respect to morality doesn't change a standard established by God.
When did I say that it did? I said that standards change over time. Please note the use of the plural noun.
That's why it's called a STANDARD.
A standard. Not the only standard. Society's current standards of morality are not the same as those in the past, nor will they be the same as those in the future.
Yeah...look at homosexuality! By golly, the sodomites have almost bullied their way into social acceptance! So they MUST be right! Is that your logic?
No it's not, nor have I said anything to indicate it. I simply observed that public standards are trending in favor of homosexual marriage. Do you disagree?
I see by your posting history that I've struck a nerve with you.
Um, you're the one who's upset, not me...
You're a little too preoccupied with homosexuality, and being sympathetic to them.
Preoccupied? Let's look at the threads I've participated in since I join a few months ago, shall we? The subjects have been:
Is that being too "sympathetic"?
I'll make you a deal. You keep your pet peaves to yourself, and I promise to leave you alone.
I'll make you a counter-proposal. You debate the issues of the day on this forum and so will I. Doesn't that sound reasonable?
I'm sorry your arguments & positions are so weak that you're unable and/or unwilling to defend them.
Go bother somebody else.
How exactly (precision counts!) does answering your post "bother" you?
When you figure out whether you're an athiest or agnostic, let somebody know. But not me.
I'm either an optimistic atheist (ok, there might be a God) or a pessimistic agnostic (...but probably not).
Whoops...forget you saw that.
...libertarian, athiest/agnostic, homosexual sympathizer.
I never said I was a Libertarian. In fact, the one time I addressed Libertarianism on this forum was to point out the folly of voting for them. Just for the record, I'm a Republican. As for the others...I'm either an optimistic atheist (ok, there might be a God) or a pessimistic agnostic (...but probably not). As regards "sympathy" for homosexuals, I don't think that expressing indifference towards two ladies kissing each other and not calling for the beheading of homosexuals is quite the same as, say, marching in a Gay Pride parade.
What in the hell are you doing here?
Please restrain yourself, sir! The heat of your invective...! Nonetheless, I shall persevere and answer your question.
I'm in favor of the War On Terror. I back Israel 100%. I can't stand the United Nations. I'm against affirmative actions. I'm for Official English. I'm for the death penalty. I think we should be drilling like crazy, and building dozens of nuclear power plants. I laugh at Global Warming extremists. I want a flat tax, and a low one. I'm against almost all social spending. I want our military budget to increase. I'm for SDI. I'm against universal health care. I'm for vouchers. I'm pro-gun.
With a resume like that, where do you think I should go? Democratic Underground?
Don't answer that because I'm not listening.
You really shouldn't ask questions if you don't want them to be answered.
Your turn, sir. I eagerly await, but do not expect, your response.
this 'thing' even getting acknowledged in a courtroom is way beyond the camels nose...
once its the law o land, there wont be any turnig back, 'recruiting' will become common and open relationships will be 'normal'...
hopefully itll only be a rampant case of homo only strains of buttflu, and that the Lord will spare the innocent of His wrath...
LFOD...
In my life, I’ve gone from being repulsed by the idea of homosexuality, to being ambivalent about it later, to being “tolerant” of it as the years went by, as long as it wasn’t pushed in my face, to now, being angry about it. I’ve come to realize that the “gay agenda” is simply an anti-christian crusade, and the more they push, the more dislike I feel for them. They can’t accept the fact that most people in the modern world have learned to “accept” them. No. That’s not good enough. Now they must be embraced and coddled to in every facet of life, from teaching 1st graders that Heather has two mommies, to gay marriage, to now trying to sue a bible publisher because some little homo nazi finds the condemnation of his lifestyle “offensive,” or is seeking easy money, or wants to persecute Christians, or simply has nothing better to do with his miserable life. The gay agenda is like every other agenda for the enemies of America. They use our insufferable, smothering, political correctness against us. They demand “tolerance,” but like muslim extremists, are tolerant of no one else’s rights. One day, they are going to push too far, and if their blood spills because of it, it will be their own damned fault. I’m truly sick of these gay nazis, and have no sympathy for them or their perv agenda. Since they can’t seem to “accept” anyone else with a differing view from their own, I no longer feel like accepting them. I will tolerate them as fellow human beings, but they better stay the hell out of my face about it, and get the hell off my bible. Let them transcribe their own bible, according to their own homo religion, where God is a homo lover and sits on a cloud in approval of everything they do. They can call it “The Holy Gayble,” and sit around talking about how “tolerant” their gay loving god is. I promise, I won’t find it offensive. I don’t give a crap what God they believe in, but when they start insisting that MY God is wrong for condemning them AND that his words must be erased to make them feel better about their perversions, well, they can go to hell. I’m sick of it. It angers me when I see what’s happening in Canada, and they’re trying to indoctrinate America into the same kind of gay nazism. I’ve had enough. How the hell these morons think that these types of actions are going to win them the support of the general public, I’ll never know. There’s a fine line between tolerating something for the good of civility, and being pushed too far, and the gays don’t seem to understand this obvious concept.
They don't need the support of the general public.
They just need a court order issued by a sympathetic activist judge.
And sooner or later, they'll get one.
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