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Feds cite Schumer in collapse of IndyMac
LATimes.com ^ | July 11, 2008 | Peter Viles

Posted on 07/12/2008 10:34:14 AM PDT by kennedy

An important angle in the IndyMac failure that may get lost in ominous headlines tonight and tomorrow: federal regulators pointedly cited U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., in explaining the bank's failure. In simple language, federal regulators blamed Schumer for a run on the bank.

Here's from the press release issued by IndyMac's regulator, the Office of Thrift Supervision: "The OTS has determined that the current institution, IndyMac Bank, is unlikely to be able to meet continued depositors’ demands in the normal course of business and is therefore in an unsafe and unsound condition. The immediate cause of the closing was a deposit run that began and continued after the public release of a June 26 letter to the OTS and the FDIC from Senator Charles Schumer of New York. The letter expressed concerns about IndyMac’s viability. In the following 11 business days, depositors withdrew more than $1.3 billion from their accounts.

"This institution failed today due to a liquidity crisis," OTS Director John Reich said. "Although this institution was already in distress, I am troubled by any interference in the regulatory process."

Schumer's response? In an e-mail quoted by Bloomberg News, he says: "If OTS had done its job as regulator and not let IndyMac's poor and loose lending practices continue, we wouldn't be where we are today ... Instead of pointing false fingers of blame, OTS should start doing its job to prevent future IndyMacs.''

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 110th; banking; blame; democrat; indymac; liar; rat; schumer; weasel
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1 posted on 07/12/2008 10:34:15 AM PDT by kennedy
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To: kennedy

....I believe this fit in perfectly with the goal of the political and social left in this country, which is: the impoverishment of the country and the destuction of the middle class. Schmucky Schumer is a good fellow traveler.


2 posted on 07/12/2008 10:39:55 AM PDT by Banjoguy (Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat party are among the enemies of The Republic.)
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To: kennedy

Hey, Chucky Schmucky Schumer, “false fingers of blame?” You’re an expert, as are your pathetic cohorts.


3 posted on 07/12/2008 10:39:58 AM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to bring us to the one place in the ME with no oil.)
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To: kennedy

Lock him up and throw away the key.


4 posted on 07/12/2008 10:40:19 AM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: kennedy
And if banks tighten their loan requirements, the left screams “discrimination.”
5 posted on 07/12/2008 10:40:26 AM PDT by Ratblaster ("White folks greed runs a world in need" B Hussein Obama The Muslim Magic Negro)
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To: kennedy

Chuck Schumer. A name that should always be followed with a good spit.


6 posted on 07/12/2008 10:40:30 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: kennedy

I bought this turkey in 2005 because it had good earnings. I dumped it in 2007, with a loss of $500 or so. I guess I was lucky to get out with most of my principal.


7 posted on 07/12/2008 10:42:28 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: kennedy
This is what the Dems are doing, talking down the economy, to demoralize the electorate, to pave the way for the Mocha Messiah.
8 posted on 07/12/2008 10:43:12 AM PDT by Ratblaster ("White folks greed runs a world in need" B Hussein Obama The Muslim Magic Negro)
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To: kennedy

The curious thing is why did Schumer release the letter?

Being a self-obsessed, Spitzer-like nut, what was in it for himself? I bet he was extorting someone associated with the bank who failed to pay him off.


9 posted on 07/12/2008 10:45:44 AM PDT by y6162
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To: kennedy


10 posted on 07/12/2008 10:45:49 AM PDT by maggief
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To: jim35

Chuck Schumer is a good Democrat. Thus, he is blameless in this fiasco.

Now if a Republican had released the same letter, and the results were the failure of this bank, would it be time for a public crucifixion of a Republican for the same thing?


11 posted on 07/12/2008 10:46:28 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: sofaman
You’re an expert

That was too kind. I'm not even sure I would trust Schumer with a KFC spork...

12 posted on 07/12/2008 10:53:44 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: jim35

How ‘bout a good sh*t instead.


13 posted on 07/12/2008 10:54:42 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: kennedy

This man needs to be run out of the senate. Mitch McConnell, that’s your job. How many times are you going to let this man break the law (Michael Steele’s credit report) with impunity?


14 posted on 07/12/2008 10:56:33 AM PDT by MrsPatriot (W...Still the President!)
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To: Ratblaster

Dems are like Jekyll and Hyde. They bash you for doing one thing (not lending to deadbeats and/or undocumenteds). Then, if you listen to them, they bash you for the consequences (you bank fails). Of course, they are NEVER at fault for any of it.


15 posted on 07/12/2008 11:00:33 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: kennedy

It’s convenient to try to blame Schumer here, but Schumer’s letter was the canary in the mine, the IndyMAC management was the poison gas that killed this company, not some obnoxious weekly outrage press conferencing schmuck from New York.


16 posted on 07/12/2008 11:02:07 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: wastedyears

Seconded. Prosecute ‘em.


17 posted on 07/12/2008 11:07:12 AM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: kennedy

The GOP needs to be all over this like white on rice.

Yes, America, the DEMOCRATS caused a big bank to fail.


18 posted on 07/12/2008 11:14:42 AM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: kennedy

Follow the money. Not the money in the run on the bank. Follow the money that stood to gain. Id be curious to know what hedge funds had shorted the stock before Shmucky opened his yap. It’s well known what a bed whore he is with a lot of hedge funds.


19 posted on 07/12/2008 11:19:13 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Now if a Republican had released the same letter, and the results were the failure of this bank, would it be time for a public crucifixion of a Republican for the same thing?

The Dims are hypoctites, I am not. I would defend a conservative for doing this. So too will I for a leftie.

He does not get a pass on forcing banks to make bad loans then attacking them when they do. Nor would a pubbie.

20 posted on 07/12/2008 11:23:17 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can never be obvious enough.)
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To: rbg81
They can only win if you care about what they say. The worst thing that can be said about a person, is that person is a racist. The mere hint of an accusation of racism, will cower most White people.
The Dems are offering up a half Black, empty suit, and drop the race card on anyone that questions any aspect of the Muslim Magic Negro's life.
I don't know how to post a picture here, but; que Smokey the Bear.
Remember-Only Whitey can be a Racist.
21 posted on 07/12/2008 11:23:29 AM PDT by Ratblaster ("White folks greed runs a world in need" B Hussein Obama The Muslim Magic Negro)
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To: DogBarkTree
Follow the money.

Or in this case, follow the NO money. I had read on an earlier thread that IndyMac had donated 0 dollars to the DNC while other banks had donated hundreds of thousands.

22 posted on 07/12/2008 11:27:28 AM PDT by Roccus (I love my country...the government is another story.)
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To: Roccus

"Tell your friends I don't want a lot, just enough to wet my beak."

23 posted on 07/12/2008 11:33:15 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: kennedy
I wonder what legal culpability Schumer is responsible for here.

Can tens of thousands of investors band together to sue a sitting US Senator?

24 posted on 07/12/2008 11:34:14 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: DogBarkTree
IndyMac has been known on Wall Street as a sick dog for a lot longer than Shmucker opening his yap a week or two ago or whenever. I'm certainly not sticking up for Chucky, but a look at the stock chart will tell you this was a dead company for quite some time.
25 posted on 07/12/2008 11:34:29 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: DogBarkTree; dfwgator

Check out post #10

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2044275/posts


26 posted on 07/12/2008 11:35:06 AM PDT by Roccus (I love my country...the government is another story.)
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To: dfwgator

IndyMAc should have ponied up some bucs for the Dems, then maybe they would still be un business.
The left is worse than the islamic terrorist because at least the terrorist tell you they want to destroy us, and the left tells us that they want to help us, then they stick it to us.


27 posted on 07/12/2008 11:36:12 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (RIGHT: Wots all this then?)
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To: Banjoguy

Schumer...and his band of Congressional thieves should be investigated for shorting these banks..and S & L’s..before his remarks.


28 posted on 07/12/2008 11:37:34 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Winged Hussar

What you should have done...is short it right after you sold it.


29 posted on 07/12/2008 11:38:26 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: jsh3180
The gift that can make a good grifter is a sense of the timing of someone else's misfortune. Might be that The Senior Senator of the State Empire, the Honorable Mister Schumer hath that gift been gifted him in spades. And look how he digs with it! Dig it!

Oh ye bankers and bankers-like sendth all thy due homage to the Campaign of the Schumer or riskth all -- see that dead bank, be-lily-ed and encasketed yonder! Let that not be thy fate, oh bankers all.

Send money now.

30 posted on 07/12/2008 11:40:30 AM PDT by bvw
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To: DogBarkTree
The answer to your question is: NONE.

When The Schmuck published his letter, IndyMac was trading @ $1.18/share. No hedge fund would short **anything** with that type of risk/reward ratio.

31 posted on 07/12/2008 11:40:39 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: jsh3180

No kidding...with a heck of an opportunity to short that dog in Feb..at $10.


32 posted on 07/12/2008 11:42:21 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: SAJ
Good point....but it ain't the only bank that's gone down..since Chuckie's letter.
33 posted on 07/12/2008 11:44:23 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange
I trust you are referring to Lehman Brothers, among possibly others.

Lehman's been toast ever since Bear Stearns went tapioca. Schmuckles had nothing to do with Lehman -- you're just seeing a huge shakeout in the banking sector (and one which is very badly needed for the long-term health of banking in the US). The excesses of the past 16 years simply have to be purged at some point.

When the 'Rats forced banks to make big-dollar loans such as mortgages to people with crappy credit (and, like as not, crappy character in a lot of cases) they knew perfectly well that the shjt would hit the fan one day.

That day is here.

I've been buying Lehman Jan 2010 puts for months. One of the best trades I've ever made, happy to say.

34 posted on 07/12/2008 11:57:15 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: Osage Orange

“””No kidding...with a heck of an opportunity to short that dog in Feb..at $10.””””
_____________________________________________________

The Japanese Candlestick charts tell the story, that little pop to $10 in February....if you look at the chart, it looks to be February 2nd....that type of candle is known as a “Gravestone Doji”. From the wonderful book “Japanese Candlesick Charting Techniques” by Steve Nison....”The gravestone doji’s forte is in calling tops, as we have discussed, many of the Japanese technical terms are based on military analogies. In candlestick literature it is said that the gravestone doji represents the gravestone of the bulls that have died defending their territory”


35 posted on 07/12/2008 12:01:44 PM PDT by jsh3180
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To: Osage Orange

Check their Swiss and offshore secret accounts.


36 posted on 07/12/2008 12:07:52 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Osage Orange
Schumer...and his band of Congressional thieves should be investigated for shorting these banks..and S & L’s..before his remarks.

..didn't know they did that. Where can I find out more about this? Drudge should be all over this.

37 posted on 07/12/2008 12:11:42 PM PDT by Banjoguy (Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat party are among the enemies of The Republic.)
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To: kennedy
That was the first thing that hit me when I read the article yesterday afternoon.

Why did Smugly Schumckly feel obligated to inform some and not all that the bank was being investigated?

We need another useless investigation into this mess.

Smugly Schumckly is a bloomin lib so nothing will be done for an ethics violation at the least and a conspiracy to save his buddies arses in the most.

38 posted on 07/12/2008 12:14:55 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: jsh3180
jsh3180 wrote:
a look at the stock chart will tell you this was a dead company for quite some time.

Comment:
Did the stock charts say that the fed was investigating this company thereby letting all investors have equal opportunity to get the hello out at the same time?

Did the stock chart say the bank was going to be taken over on Friday, July 11 at six PM Eastern Standard time after the stock market closed so investors could not bail?

In liberals eyes Chuckie may be a hero but in my eyes the cockroach senator from New Yark is nothing but a grandstanding liberal arsewhole.

If I offended any PETA loving Cockroaches please forgive me.

39 posted on 07/12/2008 12:25:46 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

A chart will tell you anything in hindsight, which is why chartists are so good at pointing out how good their charts were in the past, yet for some reason never tell you today what is going to happen in the future.


40 posted on 07/12/2008 12:31:55 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: kennedy
If OTS had done its job as regulator and not let IndyMac's poor and loose lending practices continue, we wouldn't be where we are today .

Hey, the guy was already hanging off the edge of a cliff. All I did was stomp on his fingers.
41 posted on 07/12/2008 12:33:34 PM PDT by BinaryBoy
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To: Banjoguy

I believe officeholders put their assets in blind trusts on assuming office. They certainly should, if this is not the case.


42 posted on 07/12/2008 12:34:55 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: OKIEDOC
I'm sure they were in trouble for a long time - but the precipitate was indeed Schumer's statement. I was watching television last week and saw his press conference and said out loud “that out to do it!”

It reminded me of the old vaudeville joke - about the man anxiously awaiting the results of his medical tests. His doctor enters the room looking at lab reports on a clipboard. After a few minutes patiently waiting as the doctor read the reports the man could wait no longer. He says “Doc, Doc - you gotta tell me, how am I?” The doctor puts down the clipboard and looks at the patient and says “Let me put it this way, any sudden shock could kill you!”

43 posted on 07/12/2008 12:37:32 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: kennedy
"This institution failed today due to a liquidity crisis," OTS Director John Reich said. "Although this institution was already in distress, I am troubled by any interference in the regulatory process."

Denying the obvious. The problem is that the FDIC didn't act soon enough - and will suffer losses for not shutting this decrepit bank down a long time ago.

44 posted on 07/12/2008 12:37:43 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: kennedy
Schumer and the other Democrats want to see our economy collapse and America go into a depression because they think that will help them politically.
45 posted on 07/12/2008 12:37:47 PM PDT by detective
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To: Roccus

From the thread mentioned...

Chuck Schumer is Chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Take a look at some of the DSCC’s top donors so far :
Goldman Sachs $362,550
JPMorganChase $311,604
Morgan Stanley $169,450
Citigroup $146,250
Total: $989,844

IndyMac Bank $0

IndyMac does not even have a registered lobbyist in Washington, DC.


46 posted on 07/12/2008 12:52:34 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: kennedy

Old man Potter, in the person of Chuck Schumer, thought he would work his magic on seniors living on the income from their reverse mortgages.

Thanks Chuck, you’ve been helpfull!


47 posted on 07/12/2008 12:54:54 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: kennedy

Anybody remember the Bear-Stearns/JP Morgan fiasco? Read the article “The Secret Bailout of JP Morgan” by Ellen Brown on Mike Savages website. It is tremendous reading and extremely thought provoking. Then begin to wonder how many of Chuckies friends and contributors made a killing after this highly suspect letter went public.


48 posted on 07/12/2008 12:55:35 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: kennedy

This will get relatively little attention in the press, of course, as he has a D beside his name. If it was an R he’d have been forced to resign by now.


49 posted on 07/12/2008 12:56:08 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: kennedy

Why doesn’t someone post a few of Chuckie’s financial disclosure forms? There just might be a nugget or two in there.


50 posted on 07/12/2008 1:01:42 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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