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No Place Like Home/ ( homeschool) Let's try this again in a civil manner!
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080712/no-place-like-home.htm ^ | Ken Connor

Posted on 07/12/2008 5:05:48 PM PDT by wintertime

When it comes to getting a good education, apparently, there's no place like home.

When homeschooling first came into prominence in the late 1980’s many viewed it with skepticism, but it has proved itself over and over the past two decades.

Whether the average homeschooled student is getting as good an education as the average public school student is no longer a question. The verdict is in. The results of numerous studies show the average homeschooler is receiving a better education than the average public or private school student.

In a 1997 study, Strengths of Their Own, Dr. Brian Ray examined a sample of over 5,402 homeschooled students. On average, they scored 30 to 37 percentile points higher than the average public school student in all subjects.

A separate test done in 1991 by the Home School Legal Defense Association in conjunction with the Psychological Corporation found that a sampling of 5,124 homeschooled students across all grades scored 18 to 28 percentile points higher on the Stanford Achievement Test than the average public school student.

Finally, the 7,858 students who declared themselves to be homeschooled on the 2004 ACT scored an average of 1.7 points higher, on a scale of 1-32, than the national average.

The academic success of homeschooled students is impressive and, no doubt, attributable to the hard work these students put into their education; but the hard work put in by their parents (many of whom do not even hold a bachelor's degree) is equally impressive. Parental involvement is key and appears to outweigh factors such as race and government regulation on one's education at home.

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Please! Let's try this again in a civil manner.
1 posted on 07/12/2008 5:05:50 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Seriously!!!!


2 posted on 07/12/2008 5:11:34 PM PDT by M0sby ((Proud Wife of MSgt Edwards, USMC (Ret)))
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To: wintertime; wagglebee; darkangel82; RJR_fan; RightWingTeen; uptoolate; JRandomFreeper; ...
Please be careful and mindful of Gramscian Marxist tactics.
3 posted on 07/12/2008 5:19:32 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

BUMP!!!


4 posted on 07/12/2008 5:22:57 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: wintertime
I'll play nice :)
5 posted on 07/12/2008 5:26:03 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: wintertime; All

Good on ya. Ignore the troll.


6 posted on 07/12/2008 5:27:42 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: wintertime

Somebody should do a study on whether they also make better citizens. Not that there’s any doubt.


7 posted on 07/12/2008 5:30:14 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: wintertime
Civil kills a whole lot of the blood-letting fun out of it.

/johnny

8 posted on 07/12/2008 5:31:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: wintertime
More good news for homeschoolers.

Judge dismisses juvenile case prompting homeschool ban
9 posted on 07/12/2008 5:31:59 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Somebody should do a study on whether they also make better citizens.

I know who I want for neighbors...

/johnny

10 posted on 07/12/2008 5:33:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Somebody should do a study on whether they also make better citizens.
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Homeschoolers are in general better citizens.

As adults they are more likely to be married, have kids, be a volunteer in the community, graduate from college, hold a job, go to church, and **vote**! The study can be found on the HSLDA website.

11 posted on 07/12/2008 5:35:06 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

I remember as a youth a friend who was having a bad time grade wise in school. The school counselor suggested a tutor to help him in certain subjects.

Isn’t that what we homeschoolers do 24/7? Tutor our kids one on one in all subjects of life, including the ones not recognized by the state?

With that kind of philosophical approach, these stats do not surprise me. Nor should it surprise the state since that is what they recommend, one on one tutoring that is.


12 posted on 07/12/2008 5:35:17 PM PDT by uptoolate
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To: Man50D
Judge dismisses juvenile case prompting homeschool ban
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Perhaps this ruling will make the case before the Appeals court null and void. Do you know if this is the case?

13 posted on 07/12/2008 5:36:46 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I got all the affirmation I needed when I took my sons out, whether to the grocery or to the barber shop, and folks remarked how well behaved they were.

I attribute that to a what some call “lack of socialization.” I call it protection from the predatory pack while they grew into self confident individuals with their own identity.


14 posted on 07/12/2008 5:37:10 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: wintertime

Please remember that some of us are home schooling in defense of our kids. I was called to a conference with my second grade son’s teacher “he refuses to do his class work” was her complaint. My response was so then he is failing the class. Oh no he always scores A’s on the Friday tests but you must make him do his class work rather than quietly gazing off into space was her response. I asked her if she had tried to give him harder more challenging work. Her response was no that would be rewarding him for not doing his class work. My comment on the previous thread:”

What to do when my homeschooled 13 year old scores PHS on the Stanford test. That stands for post high school grade level. He is also the tagline mentioned life scout with some 30 odd merit badges also. This is the kid the “professional” teacher wanted to toss out for not doing his seat work! I think I have the answer he will be in Junior college with dual enrollment in the fall. The other one is even scarier finishing an online sixth grade class in three months and playing fiddle (violin) with adults. They do a sport every year and scouts as well. I promise I will have their karate instructor beat their lunch money out of them once per year to keep em socialized. Should we go into the 1000 lexiles probably not. Kudos to the factory school kids getting ready for the factory jobs that have all departed maybe they can follow.”


15 posted on 07/12/2008 5:39:15 PM PDT by scottteng (Proud parent of a Life scout.)
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To: wintertime
Perhaps this ruling will make the case before the Appeals court null and void. Do you know if this is the case?

I believe that is precisely what the HSLDA is claiming. You can see their argument by clicking on the link I provided and then click on the HSDLA links within that thread to see that very point on the HSLDA website.
16 posted on 07/12/2008 5:42:37 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: uptoolate
Isn’t that what we homeschoolers do 24/7? Tutor our kids one on one in all subjects of life, including the ones not recognized by the state?
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It is also what parents of academically institutionalized children are doing as well.

I often enrage government school defenders by posting: “All academically successful students are homeschooled!” I know that this is really a bit much, but really shouldn't we be carefully examining this?

If children ( home and institutionally schooled) are academically successful how much of their success is due to the schooling that occurs in the home? How much is due to the child's study of the text and finishing projects? How much is due to the teaching and home life created by the parents?

If 99% of learning is homeschooling or “afterschooling” then throwing more money at traditional government schools will **never** improve the achievement of those students in dysfunctional families. There are two possible options ( or a combination of both:

1) Teach dysfunctional parents how to be functional.

and/or

2) Do as the KIPP schools are doing. Duplicate in school what is happen at home in a functional family.

The problem with government schooling is that the advice dysfunctional parents need is in conflict with the First Amendment. Can you imagine a government principals saying to a parent, “Get married to your live in honey!” Could you see government school principals talking sternly to a parent about “sin”?

What is needed for these parents and their children are private schools. Private schools do not have First Amendment religious constraints.

17 posted on 07/12/2008 5:47:54 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: metmom

same thread Homeshool debate! hopefully civil enuf not to be locked.


19 posted on 07/12/2008 5:49:42 PM PDT by scottteng (Proud parent of a Life scout.)
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To: wintertime
Please! Let's try this again in a civil manner.

Awww, that's no fun! Can we at least get a little whiney?

20 posted on 07/12/2008 5:50:56 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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