Blue McCain, Red Obama?

American Conservative Union ^ | July.9, 2008 | Donald Devine

[Ultra Sonic 007]

A more in-depth look at a familiar theme: Obama might be dangerous, but a McCain win would destroy conservatism in the Republican Party.

From the ACU no less.

[mimaw]

Baloney.

[Red Steel]

I 2nd that. Baloney.

[llandres]

“Democrats already have the most effective House of Representatives majority in years”

“Effective” may be a poor choice of words. Congress has a historically all-time low approval rating of 9%.

[Keyes2000mt]

To the losers belong the spoil.

[DB]

I also believe McCain will destroy what little is left of the conservatives in the GOP.

We knew way back in 2000 that “compassionate conservatism” was poison. Yet we ignored it to stay true to the “bigger issues” of the day and now look where we are... We won some important battles but at the end of the day it looks like we lost the wider war.

[Impy]

The sum won’t win 9 senate seats.

Also

Red=communists, socialists, labourites and democrats

Blue=Conservatives.

[paudio]

No mention of other issues that are also dear to at least this ‘conservative’: war against Islamo-facists and the selection of Justices. Yes, there's always a chance that President McCain appoint someone who is a bit middle of the road like Sandra Day O'Connor. Still, I take her over whoever Obama appoints. With McCain, it's much more than 50-50 that we get a conservative judge. With Obama, it's nil.

[null and void]

The only rational solution is for red conservatives to vote for the Democrat and blue liberals for the Republican.

What if they gave an election and no one came?

[babygene]

“With McCain, it’s much more than 50-50 that we get a conservative judge.”

I don’t think so...

[ModelBreaker]

Baloney.

I respectfully disagree. McCain is a disaster for conservatism in almost every way. And that is very bad for America in the long term.

He's not quite as much a short term disaster for America as Obama. And he'll probably be better on Supreme Court appointees-we can expect Sandra O'Conner and Kennedy-like appointments from him. Both second rate, weak-kneed justices but sometimes they got it right. Bot would be better than the left-wing ideologues we will get from Obama who never get it right. So on that one count, McCain would be better long-term for America and conservatives.

The real problem is that the next 4-8 years are going to be really rough in America no matter how the presidential election turns out. We will have a socialist congress and a liberal president, either way. Both McCain and Obama, with a socialist congress, will tank the economy and we should look forward to something like the Jimmy Carter economy, when we had a similar situation.

But with McCain as president, the public will blame Republicans for the problem, when the real problem is socialism. That gives us another eight years of socialism after that. Not sure the country can recover from 16 years of socialist governance. Socialism has a way of locking itself in institutionally so that it is very difficult to dislodge. Kind of like cancer.

The balance is whether the long term damage resulting from almost complete destruction of conservatism is less harmful to America (minus the difference in the Supreme Court) than the short term damage of an Obama-lead jimmy carter economy coupled with proper assessment of the blame by the public in the next election.

Frankly, I think the balance is very close. I lean very slightly to the McCain is a little tiny bit less harmful position. But it is without doubt the worst choice America has had in my lifetime.

[Royal Wulff]

A failed ideology doesn’t get to claim a primary color in perpetuity. Red is a color of action and boldness. Blue is passivity and weakness. Libs are blue.

[Liberty Valance]

This is the city ...



Hey, i kinda' like this latest i-phone ...

[SoCalPol]

I don’t agree with McCain on some issues but before anything else we are voting for America.
There will not be a next time after Marxist Obama.

The Third Party folks, especially the Chuck Baldwin Anti War, Truthers are in a ritual posting mode against McCain.

Though I want a secure border, against amnesty and stop the handouts to the illesals.

The Third Party folks especially Chuck Baldwin who is using the border issue to latch on to his bigger agenda which is against the war, the Michael Moore minde set re 9/11 and even Far Left Janeane Garofalo has used Chuck Baldwin’s writings against the war and Truther 9/11 views
on her on line forum.

The Third Party folks are being reved up by Chuck Baldwin
re the border and illegals to sell them further into his
far left agenda.

There are many comments on line by Baldwin that sound right out of the Michael Moore, George Soros, play book.

[Wil H]

The whole “blue” and “red” thing is a screw up in American politics.

Everywhere else in the world Red is the color of the left (Red China, Russia, Britain’s Labour Party, etc) and Blue is the color of conservatism.

Only is America is it Bass Ackwards...

[max americana]

> “Effective” may be a poor choice of words. Congress has a historically all-time low approval rating of 9%. <

Exactly. The author “lost” me there...Congress couldn;t even IMPEACH W. 35 times in a row. How’s that for effective?

[ASA Vet]

That was a deliberate reversal ploy by the US CommiecRAT media branch to confuse the issue.

[afortiori]

Blue Boy was one of my favorite Dragnet episodes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0zgIzqgxFU

[TomGuy]

• Democrats already have the most effective House of Representatives majority in years, obvious in the American Conservative Union congressional voting scores for last year.
  
  
• The Democratic leadership there has not lost a single important vote since regaining control in the 2006 election.
  
  
• If not for the Senate, the GOP would be out of the legislative game altogether. They will be out after the 2008 election results even if McCain wins, maybe especially if he wins.
  
  
• It is even very likely the Democrat victory will produce a filibuster-proof Senate in 2009, with the support of a few weak-kneed Republicans it is a virtual certainty.

No matter how you splice and dice it, the next 4 years are going to be ugly especially for the conservatives.

At least with McCain, we might get gridlock. However, a veto-proof Congress will negate anything McCain tries to do without the blessing of his frends across the aisle.

No matter how you splice and dice it, the next 4 years are going to be ugly.