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Blue McCain, Red Obama?
American Conservative Union ^ | July.9, 2008 | Donald Devine

Posted on 07/12/2008 11:12:50 PM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Reagan Man

My brother-in-law, the idiot who voted for Perot, warned me not to vote for either party. “We need to teach them a lesson.” I thanked him for eight years of Clinton. He ‘sat down and shut up’.


21 posted on 07/13/2008 4:43:51 AM PDT by hershey
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To: llandres
“Effective” may be a poor choice of words. Congress has a historically all-time low approval rating of 9%.

Yet, most of the Dems running for re-election will probably be re-elected, and most of those losing their seats will be Pubbies.

The GOP leadership was oblivious to the will of the base in 06, and they lost their majorities in both chambers. Still, deaf, dumb and blind, the GOP leadership continued to push the party leftward. The GOP leadership is still oblivious to the will of the base and in 08, they may add the White House to their loss column, especially as their nominee continues to reach out to those on the left, rather than the right.

Maybe after their next 40 of wandering in the wilderness of minority, the tide might change and the GOP might get another chance at majority status.
22 posted on 07/13/2008 4:49:24 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Reagan Man
There are no geniuses in Congress but there are few fools either, . . .

The U.S. Senate alone has a fairly impressive list of room temperature IQs and fools-- Patricia Bin Murray still tops the list. But Barbara Boxer, Bob Casey Jr., Claire McCaskell and the new freshman from Minnesota (what's her name?) are giving her pretty stiff competition.

23 posted on 07/13/2008 4:52:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: Reagan Man

Without a genuine conservative candidate running in the next election, the only choise is to vote for the one who is the least liberal.


24 posted on 07/13/2008 5:01:25 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: hershey
My brother-in-law, the idiot who voted for Perot, warned me not to vote for either party. “We need to teach them a lesson.” I thanked him for eight years of Clinton. He ‘sat down and shut up’.

1992 was Bush's to win or lose. He ran the sorriest re-election campaign in history. He admitted as much in an interview shortly after the election. 1992 was Bush's to lose, and he did.

Perot did not give us 8 years of Clinton.

Bush's sorry campaign caused him to lose in 1992.
Dole's sorry campaign caused him to lose in 1996 -- Clinton was an embattled, weak, struggling President, and he still managed to defeat the GOP nominee. You can't blame Perot for that either.

However, if you do continue to blame Perot for the Bush and for the Dole loses of the White House, then you must give him credit for the 1994 GOP take over of the House and the next 12 years of the GOP majority. Of course, you have to blame the squandering of that majority status and subsequent loss of majority status in 2006 on the GOP leadership in the House.

[If McCain loses, are you going to blame Baldwin or Nadar or Barr?]
25 posted on 07/13/2008 5:18:28 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Indeed, my gut tells me McCain will win narrowly. But conservatives should hold the champagne. It will be a disaster for their philosophy and their party over the long run.

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26 posted on 07/13/2008 9:52:42 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Off balance sheet liabilities...they're not just for Enron anymore!)
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To: ASA Vet
You bet it was deliberate. They all did it once and used the red and blue state vernacular, repeated with their usual precision and propaganda.

Prior to 2000, there was no pattern to who got which color on the state maps. If anything, Republicans were blue, more often than not. It looked weird when we got the “red” color.

The commies don't want to be tarred with their natural color. The media all goes out and marches lockstep to bring it about, even Fox. They're a sham too.

27 posted on 07/13/2008 11:03:49 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

“It will be a disaster for their philosophy and their party over the long run.”

Baloney. What will losing do? What if Obama causes a liberal realignment in America? McCain will veto spending left and right and hold the line on conservative issues because he knows who brought him and he will have ample evidence from the new media and liberal attacks on him.

“From the ACU no less.”

Dang! Do they even pay attention to their own ratings system? I have no use for this once revered lobby anymore.


28 posted on 07/13/2008 12:23:37 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Royal Wulff

It is a fluke Red came to be associated with the GOP and blue the rats. The rest of world left-of center parties are red.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colour

Personally I think leftists should use ugly brownish olive green.


29 posted on 07/13/2008 1:42:51 PM PDT by Impy (Hey Barack, you're ugly and your wife smells.)
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To: TomGuy

Yet, most of the Dems running for re-election will probably be re-elected, and most of those losing their seats will be Pubbies.”

yes, Tom - a huge concern. Ironically, all those seats won by Dems in these last three special elections resulted from the dem candidates running on a “conservative agenda”, therefore wresting those seats from their repub opponents. The message couldn’t be clearer.


30 posted on 07/13/2008 9:43:32 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

yep


31 posted on 07/14/2008 1:45:37 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: babygene

I agree.


32 posted on 07/14/2008 1:46:54 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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