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District Leaders Announce New Handgun Regulations
The Washington Post ^ | July 14, 2008 | Robert E. Pierre and Marcia Davis

Posted on 07/14/2008 5:09:07 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy

District residents will be able to keep a handgun in the home for self-defense but that right would be limited to the home and not outside it, city leaders said today, announcing new gun regulations in response to the Supreme Court's recent ruling striking down the city's handgun ban.

Gun owners will have to pass vision and written tests, provide a photo with their application to register a gun, and submit their weapon for ballistics testing. Guns will also still require trigger locks.

Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) and interim Attorney General Peter J. Nickles announced the regulations alongside D.C. Council Chairman Vincent G. Gray (D), Phil Mendelson (D-At Large) and several other council members.

The regulations are an effort to maintain some gun control while complying with the Supreme Court's 5 to 4 ruling last month.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; fenty; guns; handguns; heller; shallnotbeinfringed
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They are going to keep trying until Obama gets to replace one of the 5 Justices that voted the "wrong" way.
1 posted on 07/14/2008 5:09:09 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy

(Guns will also still require trigger locks.)

In other words citizens of DC still have no right to self defense with a handgun.
There are 2 laws that liberals/socialist instituted that almost always get citizens killed.
Protection from Abuse Orders and Trigger Lock laws.


2 posted on 07/14/2008 5:13:03 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

“Guns will also still require trigger locks.”

That part (at the least) clearly runs afoul of Heller.


3 posted on 07/14/2008 5:13:04 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Bubba_Leroy

“Guns will still also require trigger locks.”

Why bother having the damn thing. Bunch of petulant children.


4 posted on 07/14/2008 5:13:19 PM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I thought that the “Trigger Locks” requirement was also struck down. Or am I confused...again.


5 posted on 07/14/2008 5:14:04 PM PDT by Blackhawk
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Guns will also still require trigger locks.

Weren't trigger locks an important part of the case? I thought I read in one of the majority opinions that to have the right to have a gun but not have the right to have it "unlocked" (my word) is foolish...or something like that.

6 posted on 07/14/2008 5:14:48 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"District residents will be able to keep a handgun in the home for self-defense but that right would be limited to the home and not outside it"

Still sounds like infringement to me!

7 posted on 07/14/2008 5:15:32 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let all Democrats have a half vote. They deserve it!)
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“Guns will still also require trigger locks.”

Rifle came with one when I bought it.

Still in the bag.


8 posted on 07/14/2008 5:15:32 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

So when’s the lawsuit, and will there be a temporary injunction to stop them?


9 posted on 07/14/2008 5:15:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
DC pretends that SCOTUS never rulled in favor of Heller.

Idiots!

10 posted on 07/14/2008 5:16:42 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Blackhawk

I have the exact same sense.I could be wrong however...because I certainly ain’t no lawyer.


11 posted on 07/14/2008 5:16:44 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Don’t even need a new lawsuit...the lower court enforcing Heller will strike down DC’s new try.


12 posted on 07/14/2008 5:19:03 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

File law suits again..........take em back to court !

But not the district. Take the individuals who wrote , presented and passed this BS to court. The people who do this to other citizens can not hide behind a shield of office when they attempt too circumvent a “proven” constitutional right too keep and bear arms !

Take em down ......recall votes, attacks on their ability too rule or govern anything much less a city, county or state.

Doom on this seditious trash !


13 posted on 07/14/2008 5:19:10 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: piytar

Looks like another lawsuit? Is the NRA up to it?


14 posted on 07/14/2008 5:19:28 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Looks like DC is planning to keep this thing in the courts for as long as they can.


15 posted on 07/14/2008 5:19:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
So when do U.S. Federal Marshals take Mayor Fenty and the city council members away in leg irons for defying a lawful ruling of the supreme court of the land?
16 posted on 07/14/2008 5:19:47 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Squantos

yea bro I’m with you


17 posted on 07/14/2008 5:19:59 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: dynachrome
Rifle came with one when I bought it

It's a law in CT that ALL guns sold have to leave the store LOCKED after purchase.My cellar is awash in unused locks. Oh, there's also a CT law (somewhat enforeced depending on gun store) that you have to have a valid carry permit to even pick one up & look at it in the store.

Nice, huh?

18 posted on 07/14/2008 5:20:41 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

We have the same nonsense in Arnoldlandia.

SUE THE BASTARDS!!


19 posted on 07/14/2008 5:22:04 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Judges are not above the Constitution. Remove them when they violate it.)
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To: Puppage

“even pick one up & look at it in the store’

Geez. Gotta trust the store clerk/owner, then.


20 posted on 07/14/2008 5:22:29 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"Gun owners will have to pass vision and written tests"

The requirement for a written test will exclude about 90% of the D.C. population from owning a firearm.

21 posted on 07/14/2008 5:25:22 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let all Democrats have a half vote. They deserve it!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I predict it will stand for a while. The issues of incorporation will take precedence over a Pi$$ing contest with the DC city council.

Residents should be more concerned that today, there is no legal way of BUYING a handgun, since there is no 01 FFL's that are willing to transfer one into the district.

Funny, that one of the arguments DC used to argue against Heller was since they weren't a State, the law didn't apply, but now they will follow Federal law covering States in that one can not buy a handgun outside of one's home State without transferring it through a dealer.

22 posted on 07/14/2008 5:25:22 PM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: Bubba_Leroy
District residents will be able to keep a handgun in the home for self-defense but that right would be limited to the home and not outside it, city leaders said today, announcing new gun regulations in response to the Supreme Court's recent ruling striking down the city's handgun ban.

Gun owners will have to pass vision and written tests, provide a photo with their application to register a gun, and submit their weapon for ballistics testing. Guns will also still require trigger locks.

I think it's time for the President to maybe slap thee idiots down hard. Maybe send Cheney in with his shotgun as President of the Senate to explain the facts of life to these idiots.

23 posted on 07/14/2008 5:25:44 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Trigger locks? How can they even enforce such a mandate?

Thank God, though I live in one of the most liberal, far-left, socialist states in the country (Vermont) we enjoy one of the most least restrictive CCW policies in the country.

What ta hell good is having a handgun if when there is a need to possibly use it, one must search in the middle of the night, in darkness, for a key to unlock your weapon while under stress, and every second could mean the difference between life and death.

F'n moron, libs, would not know the difference between a handgun and a spitball.

IF some day, one of these moonbats (or family member) is subjected to some horrible incident, then, you will see a major about face about what they now advocate.

24 posted on 07/14/2008 5:26:31 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Gone_Postal

I say shy of the POTUS, VPOTUS and Speaker of the House no polidiot should have government paid or provided security or personal security details (PSD’s)

Make this trash wade through the same sh*tswamp they force others too cope with every day of our lives. If they want too pack a pistol for personal security make them work within the same laws we have too live with for our own security !

As of right now I say .... RE-ELECT NO ONE.... in congress...........EVER !

Notice has been served !


25 posted on 07/14/2008 5:27:31 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: dynachrome
Geez. Gotta trust the store clerk/owner, then.

Not really. Because one can't purchase a handgun without a valid carry permit. And, if you want a long gun (and you have no carry permit) you have to wait 2 weeks while they do a background check.

With a carry permit, you can walk out with either or.

26 posted on 07/14/2008 5:27:40 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Blackhawk

I thought the same thing, but I remember it was in the context of the requirement to disassemble the gun. Perhaps it was only the disassembly that was struck down.

I simply wouldn’t use the lock. Have the lock handy, but don’t use it.

Perhaps someone will get rich inventing a quick-touch lock release.


27 posted on 07/14/2008 5:28:17 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

You also will only be allowed the right to speak freely inside your own home. And you’ll have to be muzzled when not speaking.

A right to bear arms can no more be restricted to one’s home than a right to worship can be restricted to a church building.


28 posted on 07/14/2008 5:29:33 PM PDT by sourcery (Libertarians are not Conservatives. But then, neither are most Republicans...)
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To: Puppage
It's a law in CT that ALL guns sold have to leave the store LOCKED

In Ohio the gun has to leave the store WITH a lock. I have quite a collected of unwanted/used locks myself. But lately I've been offering to have the clerk follow me out and carry the thing back into the store so I don't have to deal with it!

29 posted on 07/14/2008 5:29:48 PM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: dynachrome
"Still in the bag."

Exactly.

30 posted on 07/14/2008 5:29:52 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Discrimination against the handicapped.

I am serious. Blind folks should be able to keep and bare arms for protection as will.


31 posted on 07/14/2008 5:30:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

sue their cans off.


32 posted on 07/14/2008 5:31:55 PM PDT by 4buttons
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Not only are trigger locks a bad idea on weapons for defense, the Supreme Court ruled that provision unconstitutional. So, the D.C. government is trying to stick it to the Court.

This is a "civil right." The D.C. government should be hit with damages and attorneys fees and costs for messing with the civil rights of D.C. residents.

Congressman Billybob

First three in the series, "American Government: The Owner's Manual" are here, and also on FR

Latest article, "Smart as a Whip, Dumb as a Hoe Handle"

33 posted on 07/14/2008 5:33:27 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: kAcknor
In Ohio the gun has to leave the store WITH a lock

And, don't cha just feeeel safer, too? How come the .45 in my waistband didn't need a lock when I went into the store to get my new Sig P239/9mm? LOL

34 posted on 07/14/2008 5:35:59 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Squantos

Yup, persue criminal charges. The trigger lock part is clearly an intential violation of civil rights under color of law.


35 posted on 07/14/2008 5:36:30 PM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar
The Heller decision said this about trigger locks:

3. The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment.

That means they can write a law that says a gun must be kept with a trigger lock, but you're allowed to remove the lock to shoot a bad guy. Previously, you were not allowed to remove the lock, period. That law was overturned, but it doesn't mean they can't write a slightly different one that would pass.
36 posted on 07/14/2008 5:36:36 PM PDT by publiusF27
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I’m thinking this could be fought on the same basis that poll taxes were fought. “unreasonable restriction”

( on the other hand, I would not be surprised to find a $10k tax per gun and $100 tax per bullet to be found Constitutional)


37 posted on 07/14/2008 5:37:10 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: Squantos

I live in DC. I demand my constitutional rights to self-defense under the Second Amendment! I’m thinking of a civil rights lawsuit against the mayor and city council. Thoughts?


38 posted on 07/14/2008 5:37:26 PM PDT by ConservativeMajority (If war isn't the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Kaaaaaching! Lawyers will rack up a lot of fees and are already planning an extra house in the Hamptons and double trips to the Bahamas, plus braces for the kids and a new Bentley.


39 posted on 07/14/2008 5:37:51 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: publiusF27

If you can’t have a handgun outside your home in DC. How in the name of God are you supposed to buy one and bring it home or remove it from your home to sell it?


40 posted on 07/14/2008 5:38:26 PM PDT by ktime
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To: piytar

> “Guns will also still require trigger locks.”
> That part (at the least) clearly runs afoul of Heller
I suppose the key to the trigger lock will be kept by the DC cops.


41 posted on 07/14/2008 5:38:53 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Guns will also still require trigger locks.

How are the Gov Schmucks going to prove/know, how fast you can remove a trigger lock and shoot the intruder, when hit fits the sham.
Can they prove you did not have a trigger lock?

42 posted on 07/14/2008 5:39:02 PM PDT by danmar (Tomorrow's life is too late. Live today!)
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To: knarf

So , they coming into your house to see if their locked, bad idea.


43 posted on 07/14/2008 5:39:07 PM PDT by reefdiver (Had Enough? Drill 4 OIL)
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To: piytar
The trigger lock part is clearly an intential violation of civil rights under color of law.

Someone who can afford to will need to take this back to the SC.
D.C. know that no one can or will.

44 posted on 07/14/2008 5:39:28 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“Trigger locks? How can they even enforce such a mandate?”

It is to make sure that a majority of citizens are criminals at any given time.


45 posted on 07/14/2008 5:39:29 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

File another suit.


46 posted on 07/14/2008 5:40:12 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Bubba_Leroy

“Guns will also still require trigger locks.”

Cretins! Morons! Scum!

Do we need to rewrite the majority decision in Blinglish so that these idiots may comprehend it?


47 posted on 07/14/2008 5:40:42 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: kAcknor

Yup, that’s the rule here in Ohio. I actually don’t mind - some of those are good locks, and I find other uses for them...


48 posted on 07/14/2008 5:40:52 PM PDT by piytar
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To: ktime

Excellent point!


49 posted on 07/14/2008 5:41:00 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: sourcery
A right to bear arms can no more be restricted to one’s home than a right to worship can be restricted to a church building.

Coming soon to a liberal controlled district near you:

District residents will be able to pray in the home for self-defense but that right would be limited to the home and not outside it, city leaders said today, announcing prayer regulations in response to the Supreme Court's recent ruling striking down the city's religion ban.

50 posted on 07/14/2008 5:41:21 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (DNC = Do Nothing Congress)
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