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1 posted on 07/15/2008 7:20:24 PM PDT by neverdem
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This is why it’s so alarming to see putatively pro-gunners pushing for “more enforcement of existing laws.”

Many of the existing laws are terrible. Enforcing them means putting good people in prison for garbage like having a BB gun in the car while keeping up with traffic. Or stopping to take a leak on the way home from the range with an unloaded handgun in the trunk. That can get you three years in the Free State.


55 posted on 07/15/2008 8:39:19 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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He should fight it on civil rights grounds. Heller case.

Unlawful restriction.

57 posted on 07/15/2008 8:48:25 PM PDT by Mariner
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"Every time I think about it, I think of what a huge mistake it was," Narciso said. "I'm sorry for all the trouble I caused."

He's SORRY for the trouble that HE caused?! @sswipe - he should be OUTRAGED that the fascist PRNJ has outlawed what kids have owned for generations (and still do, in free states).

I am SOOOOO glad not to live in that Socialist craphole anymore. I have a carry license, dozens of >15 round magazines and could easily buy a machine gun if I had the dollars to spare on one. No such things are possible in NJ.

True story: on my way from NJ to Texas about 7 1/2 years ago, I passed the "Welcome to Delaware" sign on the DMB on I-95. I turned to my wife and said, "Now you won't have to bail me out of jail." Of course, I got the pie-eyes and the open mouthed look that I expected, along with a "Why?" I explained the idiocy of NJ's "assault weapon" ban, part of which outlawed magazines of > 15 rounds capacity. She asked how many I had, and I said "Well, about 18 inches behind my rear end sits about 200 years in Rahway prison." Bigger pie-eyes, and she almost broke her jaw on the console. She thought for a couple seconds and asked, "They don't have laws like that in Texas, do they?" I said, "No, Texas is in America."

Eff the PRNJ. I can't wait for the SCOTUS to incorporate the 2nd via the 14th, and to thereby tell NJ, Kali and a bunch of other repressive socialist sh itwholes that their laws are unconstitutional.

61 posted on 07/15/2008 9:17:06 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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Absurd. We give people slaps on the wrist for real crimes and lock ‘em up for having glorified toy’s in their cars. If BB guns were treated like this when I was a kid then i’d be serving life.


62 posted on 07/15/2008 9:27:52 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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I don't see how a BB gun could be classified as a firearm. Aside from that, what an asinine law passed by asinine legislature in an........well, you see where I'm going.
63 posted on 07/15/2008 9:29:06 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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"Every time I think about it, I think of what a huge mistake it was," Narciso said. "I'm sorry for all the trouble I caused."

The time and money that these people are going to have to expend trying to defend theirselves against this law infuriates me. Rather than apologizing for buying a bb gun they should be outraged at the charges and threat of imprisonment for this kid!!!!!!!!!!!
God I hate NJ, it’s a cesspool; so glad I no longer live there.

73 posted on 07/16/2008 5:16:48 AM PDT by mcar
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I ordered a new BB gun and BBs Tuesday. Just checked the website's shipping info page. Some interesting stuff there: http://www.airgunwarehouseinc.com/info.html

Shipping Information: Most orders ship next business day. Please allow at least 48 hours for your tracking number to be emailed to you. All airgun orders will arrive ADULT SIGNATURE REQUIRED. All persons must be 18 to purchase restricted items. If you refuse shipment, we will issue a credit for the product minus our shipping costs. A twenty percent (20%) restocking fee will be charged.

We do not ship co2 to Puerto Rico, Hawaii or Alaska.

Based on the state law we do NOT and can NOT ship airguns or bb guns to New York City and its boroughs (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, Staten Island, these zip codes are: 100xx-104xx, 110xx, 112xx-114xx, 116xx), the city of Philadelphia, PA and Washington DC.

Residents of Chicago, IL cannot buy CO2 powered rifles, pistols or revolvers directly from us.

Residents of New Jersey can buy bb guns through a designated local gun store after acquiring an Airgun Permit.

Cite from New Jersey law: "A 'firearm' means any handgun, rifle, shotgun, air gun, gas gun, machine gun, or 'any gun'."

Michigan residents, .177 CALIBER AIR RIFLES AND SMOOTH BORE AIR PISTOLS CAN BE PURCHASED DIRECTLY ON THE WEB SITE AND WILL BE SHIPPED DIRECTLY TO YOU. No air pistols (other than smooth bore) of any caliber can be sold to you unless the proper permits are issued by the State and local authorities.

According to Michigan law Sec. 222. As used in this chapter: (b) "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.

All orders containing CO² Must be shipped via Standard Ground Shipping since CO² cannot be shipped by air.

85 posted on 07/16/2008 1:09:01 PM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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New Jersey is completely and utterly FUBAR.


87 posted on 07/16/2008 7:55:20 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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No fire, no "fire"arm.

What in the gibbering hell is going on over there?

91 posted on 07/17/2008 1:05:15 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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