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Cost of Government Day [consuming 53.9 percent of national income.......]
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| Grover Norquist
Posted on 07/16/2008 10:22:30 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
And I am reminded that when the income tax was first proposed, people were ridiculed for suggesting that, if enacted, it could someday grow as high as 4%!
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:25:48 AM PDT
by
kc8ukw
To: Sub-Driver
Instead of “cost of government” maybe it should be referred as how much is taken away from the average working American and shamelessly given to others in return for their votes.
This is all totally unacceptable and unconstitutional. It is truly sickening. This “legalized” consfiscation of proptety is just as immoral as a criminal thief.
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:30:02 AM PDT
by
MichiganCheese
(A govt. that's big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take all that you have.)
To: Sub-Driver
Fortunately, the IRS just "acquired" a bunch of stolen bank records by paying off a criminal who stole the records. They'll use the stolen goods to put the arm on
a bunch of "super-rich tax cheats", and all of the rest of us will see a significant reduction in our federal income taxes.
Or else Warshington will have a big party, and the remaining jack from the big bust will be used to hire more IRS revenooers & enforcers to squeeze even more jack out of the American serfs.
Woo-hoo!
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:31:31 AM PDT
by
an amused spectator
(corruptissima republica, plurimae leges)
To: kc8ukw
And I am reminded that when the income tax was first proposed, people were ridiculed for suggesting that, if enacted, it could someday grow as high as 4%! ...and those people were mocked as "Kooks," "Taxtards," "Nuts," etc., but in the vernacular of the day.
If conservative groups really cared about winning the day, they'd be sponsoring "polling" and advertisements asking the trivia question:
"What was the top federal personal income tax rate 100 years ago?"
With today's educational systems, I bet few Americans would come close.
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:32:33 AM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: MichiganCheese
Instead of cost of government maybe it should be referred as how much is taken away from the average working American and shamelessly given to others in return for their votes. The way to look at it is how many days of your life are being confiscated by the government. Some could equate this to being in jail.
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:34:41 AM PDT
by
Cobra64
(www.BulletBras.net)
To: kc8ukw
Hauser’s Law.
no matter how high the tax rates are the government will only take in under 20% GDP. Even when the top marginal rate was 90% in 1950, 60% in 1960, and 35% in 2004, the revenues were around 20%.
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:35:50 AM PDT
by
griswold3
(Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
To: an amused spectator
Rock on. And in a thread I posted today, our Congress is busy enacting laws that create incentives for taxpayers to renounce their citizenship.
America's Berlin Wall
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:37:13 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: MichiganCheese
This is all totally unacceptable and unconstitutional ...not since 1913.
A previous 2% tax on the rich (>$4,000) was struck down, so the 16th Amendment was passed and ratified.
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:37:32 AM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Sub-Driver
The federal side of the equation (and the state side for me, in California) does not take into account deficit spending. So I’ll effectively be working X days next year to fund this year as well.
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posted on
07/16/2008 10:46:43 AM PDT
by
PC99
To: Sub-Driver
Grover Norquist has a lot of damned gall to bitch about the cost of government when he has worked as an open borders advocate for decades.
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posted on
07/16/2008 11:08:18 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(G-d gave us Law a fool could follow, but a genius couldn't comprehend)
To: Sub-Driver
This country fought its first revolution over a mere 1% tax.
I guess Americans have really turned into pu$$ies and will just accept whatever big government shoves down their throats.
To: Sub-Driver
The founding fathers and signers of the US Constitution would be shocked and aghast at the size/taxes of Govt.
Insane isn’t it?
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posted on
07/16/2008 11:15:31 AM PDT
by
tflabo
(Truth or tyranny)
To: Sub-Driver
Apparently this isn’t enough. Americans seem to want more taxes, more government and less liberty.
We live in a Tyranny of the Stupid.
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posted on
07/16/2008 11:17:26 AM PDT
by
navyguy
(Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
To: Sub-Driver
"53.9%? It ain't enough. We're shootin' for 66%."
To: traviskicks
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posted on
07/16/2008 11:39:03 AM PDT
by
bamahead
(Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
To: Gondring
If conservative groups really cared about winning the day, they'd be sponsoring "polling" and advertisements asking the trivia question: "What was the top federal personal income tax rate 100 years ago?"
With today's educational systems, I bet few Americans would come close.
The answer is 'zero'.
100 years ago there wasn't any Federal Income Tax. The 16th Amendment (Income Tax) wasn't ratified until Feb 3, 1913.
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posted on
07/16/2008 11:42:49 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
To: Gondring
but...where does is say that the federal government’s role is to make some citizens provide for other citizens’ food, housing, education, health insurance, etc? Where does it say it is supposed to provide for art, radio stations and the myriad of other “worthy” causes.
While it has the power to tax, if it was spent only on common defense & general welfare, they wouldn’t be taking as much from us by force. The 16th amendment did NOT provide for a socialist state.
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posted on
07/16/2008 12:08:00 PM PDT
by
MichiganCheese
(A govt. that's big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take all that you have.)
To: Sub-Driver
Shameful, at what point will people say “ENOUGH”. Seems as though the citizens of this great country just don’t care. In the very near future we will have Nationalized health care, energy and probably banking. I was born a free citizen of America but will probably die a slave to the American Socialist State.
Sad days for our once great nation!!!
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posted on
07/16/2008 12:10:11 PM PDT
by
reader25
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posted on
07/16/2008 12:16:28 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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