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Shunning may be the answer to illegal immigration
Townhall ^ | July 18, 2008 | John David Powell

Posted on 07/18/2008 10:19:41 AM PDT by John David Powell

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1 posted on 07/18/2008 10:19:41 AM PDT by John David Powell
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To: cowboy_code

Ping


2 posted on 07/18/2008 10:21:53 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Better a rino than a jackass....sigh.....)
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I’ve shunned, ignored, ostracized and flat-out act rude, but they just wont go away fast enough.
If I’m in a good mood, I like to hand them a penny or so to help them make ends meet......


3 posted on 07/18/2008 10:26:59 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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4 posted on 07/18/2008 10:27:19 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: rabscuttle385; indylindy; Ingtar; calcowgirl; Ricebug; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Sybeck1; ...
It’s up to you and your friends to do something about it, and that something is simply shunning those who purposely hire illegal workers, I said.
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5 posted on 07/18/2008 10:31:20 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Bulls and bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered.)
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I live near Reno, and when ICE raided those McDonald’s locations, they only caught workers on one shift. Reno is a 24 hour town, and I am convinced that other workers on other shifts got missed.
Luther Mack, the owner of most of the McDonald’s franchises in Reno is a very successful black man. Whenever the local do-gooders wanted to highlight the wonderful “advancements” a black person can make, they would trot out Luther Mack as their poster boy.
When the raids came down, Mack was very indignant about having these persons working for him, and loudly and endlessly declared himself innocent.
Now, it turns out that he had to know something, even another high up executive of the company is taking the heat.
IMO, a million dollar fine just isn’t enough.

How did this get exposed?
A woman in Truckee got a notice from the IRS that she hadn’t declared all of her income a couple of years back. Seems the hallmark of this group of illegals working for Mack was that real persons names and social securith numbers were used in identity theft manner, and the workers for Mack were working under real names and numbers that wouldn’t raise a flag at Social Security. This woman had worked for the same employer for a number of years and had NEVER worked at a McDonald’s.
If she hadn’t pressed the issue, Mack might never have been found out.
Except for the current news about the fines, etc, there has been no “trotting out of Mack” be the local do-gooders as their poster boy.


6 posted on 07/18/2008 10:32:06 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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As I tell my wife many times:
I am ready to help the homeless if know where they live.


7 posted on 07/18/2008 10:41:20 AM PDT by Ben Reyes (Can I Buy Offset for My Carbon Footprint on Layaway?)
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Shunning is a hate crime. Punishment is that the shunner’s house is coopted and reassigned to the shunnee.


8 posted on 07/18/2008 10:44:14 AM PDT by Rippin
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Opponents of the Fremont and Escondido plans say the cities’ attempts are unconstitutional. And, they’re probably right. Cities and states can’t enact laws governing immigration. That’s the job of the federal government.
Okaaaay. Then why does the local police department respond to a Bank Robbery? "That’s the job of the federal government." (FBI)

Annnnd if a Local Cop does catch run accross a Bank Robber by happenstance shouldn't he let him go - just as if he was an Illegal? After all, its the job of the federal government.

/s

9 posted on 07/18/2008 10:44:24 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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Just stop the biggest Gov’t free-handouts. That is more than enough.

Cheap, fraudulent, no-paperwork mortgages were a big point of attraction for illegals, and that spigot being shut-off is already showing positive results (except for the houses that they abandon).


10 posted on 07/18/2008 10:45:09 AM PDT by PGR88
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thanks for the ping.
The shunning of illegals is only the first step. Groups of local taxpayer and voters should take time to do some community betterment protests to bring more community attention to this severe social problem. It’s happening around the country and hopefully gaining momentum. I’ve done my part and others should do theirs.


11 posted on 07/18/2008 10:46:37 AM PDT by cowboy_code (Note for visitors at Arafat's grave - first dance, THEN pee.)
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If a residence in Thousand Oaks can do this, just imagine what the residents could do!


12 posted on 07/18/2008 10:49:41 AM PDT by SoCalRight
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“Opponents of the Fremont and Escondido plans say the cities’ attempts are unconstitutional. And, they’re probably right. Cities and states can’t enact laws governing immigration.”
What do these laws and statutes have to do with actual immigration? They might have some effect on illegals, but they’re not immigration laws.


13 posted on 07/18/2008 10:54:22 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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When the government won’t enforce its laws, the individual must turn his or her back on those who hire and harbor illegals.

The government is not refusing to enforce its (the government's) laws, it is refusing to enforce our (the people's) laws. In a self-governing republic, all legislative authority is vested in the people which we exercise through our elected representatives. While shunning those who employ or assist illegal immigrants is fine, it is not a solution to the problem of the people's representatives refusing to enforce our duly enacted laws. This constitutes a direct assault on the entire American project of republican self-government and can only be addressed by throwing out of office all the elected officials (including the President) who neither believe in nor support the people's right to make their own laws and to have them enforced by government.

The problem, which most of us have long realized, is that neither major party has restoring the fundamental legislative authority of the people on its agenda and our campaigns and elections in which a citizens' choice is between the lesser of two evils, neither of whom believes in this fundamental principle of republican self-government, are essentially meaningless.

It is not in the interest of the ruling political class of either party to restore the legislative sovereignty of the people and they are happy to exchange political power from time to time knowing full well that their ultimate agenda of gathering and retaining political power within their ruling elite class is achieved no matter who wins individual elections. The people will have to organize and put forward their own candidates who are not beholden to the media, business or political elites and who will make their priority the restoration of republican self-governance as they promise to do in their oaths of office and as they are required to do by the US constitution which guarantees a "republican" form of governance. The question is: do "we the people" care enough to make this happen?

14 posted on 07/18/2008 10:57:35 AM PDT by politeia
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You’re right. Need to fire my editor!


15 posted on 07/18/2008 11:00:29 AM PDT by John David Powell
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To: John David Powell; gubamyster
The bottom line is that a huge majority of us do not want illegal immigrants in the U.S.

It's only the politicians (who do not have to see or interact with illegals) who pander to them in order to get votes. Votes from people who are not allowed by the Constitution to vote.

This article indicates that keeping up the pressure on illegals and those who hire them is beginning to yield some results.

Let's keep going.

16 posted on 07/18/2008 11:05:46 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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Trash. Just trash. Illegals treat my country like sh!t. Get them out of here.


17 posted on 07/18/2008 11:13:36 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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****Shunning is not easy. She lives in a small Arkansas town. ***

So after fifty years parts of Arkansas is still in the dark ages!


18 posted on 07/18/2008 11:46:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Condor51
Okaaaay. Then why does the local police department respond to a Bank Robbery? "That’s the job of the federal government." (FBI)

I believe the LEO's oath is to uphold not only the laws of the government entity they work for but also to uphold the US Constitution.

Not sure about this, but I think I am correct.
20 posted on 07/18/2008 12:05:40 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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