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Analysis: Will terrorists go nuclear?
The Middle East Times ^ | July 7, 2008 | Claude Salhani

Posted on 07/19/2008 1:51:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

One recurring question that has been at the forefront of most intelligence agencies since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks by al-Qaida on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon just 1 mile outside Washington concerns the ongoing efforts by terrorist groups to acquire weapons of mass destruction: chemical, biological and mostly nuclear.

Each of the NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) weapons comes with a certain advantage and disadvantage -- for the terrorist, that is.

Of the three sorts, biological weapons are quite possibly the easiest to safely reproduce in a lab, assuming one knows what to do. A biological agent, as a weapon of mass destruction or as a terror weapon, is the least expensive as well as the easiest to disseminate. A bio-agent does not need a delivery mechanism and can be transported by a single person. It can pass through customs and border guards undetected, given that it is odorless and colorless.

All that is needed to spread an epidemic of botulism, for example, or mad cow disease, is to hang around a truck stop for a few hours until a semi pulling a load of cattle on its way to market in a nearby town drives in. Wait until the driver leaves his load unattended, then scrub a previously infected rag around the railings and the mouths of a few of the cattle, and let nature do the rest. The disadvantage, for the terrorist, is that the person carrying the rag is most likely to become contaminated himself (or herself). But with no shortages of jihadists queuing up to become "martyrs," finding two or three volunteers willing to die a horrible, slow and excruciatingly painful death should be no problem.

From a financial and cost-effective perspective, biological agents remain most likely the cheapest and, in all probability, the most likely agent of mass destruction to become available to terror groups.

In their haste to leave training camps and bases of operation in Afghanistan in the wake of rapidly advancing U.S. forces, al-Qaida agents left behind piles of documents, including videotapes showing tests and effects of chemical agents on animals.

Chemical weapons are more cumbersome to produce; they require larger amounts to cause enough damage to leave a psychological scar; and they require a delivery mechanism, such as an artillery shell.

Realistically, a bio-agent can cause far more deaths than a nuclear weapon, because it is not limited geographically, unlike a nuclear bomb. For example, an infected truck driver in Omaha infects a U.S. Army sergeant he met in a diner outside Tulsa, Okla. The GI travels by plane to New York, where he changes planes and boards one bound for Frankfurt. Again he changes planes, this time flying to Kuwait, where he joins up with several members of his unit heading into Iraq. Along the way the GI will have infected scores of people at every airport between Omaha and Baghdad. Those people in turn would have traveled on to Australia, South America, Canada, every European city and other parts of the world. Within a few days people from Sydney to Seattle could start dying.

A nuclear device, on the other hand, would completely devastate the immediate area and, depending on its size, would contaminate everything in a radius of several miles, but the damage would be confined to the immediate area of detonation, plus the fallout zone; in addition, depending on the wind direction and speed, radioactive particles could be carried hundreds, if not thousands, of miles. But psychologically the image of a nuclear blast carries greater impact.

Brian Michael Jenkins, who has just released a book titled "Will Terrorists Go Nuclear?" writes, "There is no doubt that the idea of nuclear weapons may appeal to terrorists." However, Jenkins stresses: "Nuclear terror can also have another insidious effect, one that imperils our very democracy. Terrorism does pose a terrible danger, but our fear of real and imagined threats must not persuade us to diminish our freedoms or our core values. There is no tradeoff between security and liberty. One does not exist without the other."

As Jenkins points out, it is important to differentiate between real and existing threats. A perfect illustration is his description of al-Qaida: "Al-Qaida may have succeeded in becoming the world's first terrorist nuclear power without possessing a single nuclear weapon."


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedanukes; alqaida; globaljihad; iran; islam; jihad; mohammedanism; nuclear; terrorism; wot
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To: Eddie01
"Analysis: Will terrorists hijack passanger jets and fly them into major government and financial assets?"

Doubtful. Previous attacks were predicated on the belief that cooperation would be exchanged for safety. That illusion was hopelessly shattered. Passengers would not go along with terrorists regardless of what weapons they had, because everyone knows the likely outcome of cooperation is death anyway. The terrorists would have trouble getting through the flight cabin door as well.

21 posted on 07/19/2008 5:39:36 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: JasonC
Yes. Next dumb question please. "But how will they get them?" Iran will give them away, as soon as they have 25 or so left for themselves. While the west does nothing.

We routinely undersetimate the difficulty of producing reliable nuclear weapons. It turns out the Iranians have trouble launching 4 missles simultaneously, from OLD technology!

22 posted on 07/19/2008 5:42:30 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: CarrotAndStick; Popman
This was discussed shortly after 9/11, a FReeper Petroleum Engineer wrote then that drilling though the 18 inches or so of glass would not be a problem. He also pointed out that the oil itself being far underground would not be effected by surface or air burst nukes even if for some reason they were used on the oil fields rather than on the intended targets. That Engineer was of course banned during the FR purge of evil scientists.
23 posted on 07/19/2008 5:46:37 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Years from now, I think (based on the recent revelation of 500 tons of yellowcake removed from Iraq) we will learn that the Bush administration in fact found tons of chem/bio materials in Iraq; that it was secretly and over a long period of time removed so that the terrorists didn't know where it was, or when it was being taken out; and that the "Iraq Study Group" was in fact a cover, a sleight-of-hand to draw attention away from the real sites where we have been working since 2003.

The yellowcake and the 100 buried fighter jets that we didn't know about suggest to me that vast quantities of deadly materials can exist without the media, or the "Iraq Study Group," ever knowing about it.

I am less certain that there has been a "doomsday note" sent to all ME governments that in the event of a major chem/bio/nuke attack on American soil, Mecca ceases to exist, but I don't entirely exclude it.

24 posted on 07/19/2008 5:47:38 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not much of an analysis


25 posted on 07/19/2008 6:02:08 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists)
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To: ASA Vet

Heh heh!

And, the extra support provided by the thick glass flooring will go a long way in stabilising the drill column, and providing a good sealant for steam-injection oil extraction techniques to be employed. It’ll even convert some of the hardened crude into liquid, effectively boosting production.

Bomb away!


26 posted on 07/19/2008 6:07:46 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: ASA Vet
FReeper Petroleum Engineer wrote then that drilling though the 18 inches or so of glass would not be a problem.

Yeah, but those radioactive suits and full head gear you have to work in would be a bitch in 120 degree weather


27 posted on 07/19/2008 6:12:27 AM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Call me paranoid, but I have been suspicious about the ongoing salmonella infections. The Rajneeshi cult in Oregon spread salmonella by surrepticiously spraying salad bars. I wonder if there is a jihadi working in a vegetable distribution company somewhere in America? Homeland Security should be looking into this possibility.


28 posted on 07/19/2008 6:24:32 AM PDT by darth
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To: darth

> Call me paranoid, but I have been suspicious about the ongoing salmonella infections.

One of the things that this points out is the widespread damage that can already be done, even without biological or nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists.

Plenty of damage can be done by conventional means, like ordinary run-of-the-mill diseases. And one of the nifty byproducts is that we will never be certain whether an outbreak is due to ordinary causes or due to terrorist activity. This would allow them to claim all outbreaks as their own work, greatly multiplying their effectiveness.

Asymetrical warfare at its finest.


29 posted on 07/19/2008 6:33:34 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

btt


30 posted on 07/19/2008 6:35:44 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Jimmy Valentine

> I’d try a highly communicable diseasein an area of low resistance. Small pox spread in San Francisco bath houses for a start/ Maybe plague? That is relatively easy.

Product recalls get pretty expensive very quickly, too. Even if a company is insured, and even if the recall is found to be for a false alarm, the ongoing effects of a recall can be extremely damaging. Remember the Tylenol recall? Now imagine that, done on purpose, to say 100 different products in different industries.

How easy would *that* be for a terrorist group to finesse? And how many times per year could they carry it off?

Even if 99% of the recalls were false alarms, it would only take one or two to be real — with some nasty consequences — in order to make this a very legitimate terrorist weapon.

Have the terrorists thought of this one yet? They would be fools if they hadn’t. And one thing that they have demonstrated time and again is that they may be fanatics, but fools they are not.


31 posted on 07/19/2008 6:39:46 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Another unexpected bonus is the glass surface would reflect solar radiation far more efficiently than sand and dirt, cooling the planet and saving us from Global Warming.


32 posted on 07/19/2008 7:13:30 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: xDGx

Fantastic!

Maybe an aerial spraying of silver oxide just before the nukes would glaze the surface with a mirror finish!

:^)


33 posted on 07/19/2008 7:18:08 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A "dirty bomb" conventional high explosives laced with relatively easy to obtain radioactive materials would wreak havoc in a major city. The BBC made for TV movie "A Dirty War" portrays just such an attack on central London with chilling accuracy.

However, even hijacking a gasoline tanker and ramming it into a shopping mall, hospital or school would have almost the impact of a WMD.

34 posted on 07/19/2008 8:33:51 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As long as we are playing the scenario games, I'm sure that a few of us here could scare us witless.
1)Liquefied natural gas is always a fun option. If Boradwater energy ever builds their proposed regasification terminal in Long Island Sound, it would be a ripe target.
2. The chemical plants and refineries in Northern New Jersey or along the Delaware River. These plants not only give the areas that pleasant odor, but also contain some rather nasty inflammable substances.
3. Speaking of refineries, oil refineries are a twofer. Not only do they burn nicely, but destroying a few would hurt the US economy disproportionately to immediate deaths.
4. Speaking of energy, electrical plants, generators, substations, and powerlines are ripe targets. ConEd is not secure and our powergrid is overloaded. Tick tock.
5. Railroads. Derailing a train isn't that hard. Commuter lines are nice targets, but the trais carrying chemicals are also newsworthy.
35 posted on 07/19/2008 9:30:09 AM PDT by rmlew (Liberalism is like AIDS; it destroys the natural defenses of a nation or civilization.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Russian suitcase nukes have never materialized. No doubt the terrorists are even now looking for the manual. Was it blue wire then red wire, or red wire then green wire?


36 posted on 07/19/2008 9:33:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: jimmyray
They hardly need them to be reliable, and they got our own designs via the Chinese. Swiss middlemen sharks have been caught with the bomb designs, and we know the Chinese stole every warhead design we have from Los Alamos more than a decade ago. As for tech help on all of it, thousands of Russian scientists are more than sufficient, and they have bought machines from Germany and Singapore.

The only routine underestimation going on is the threat, and the sole cause is outright cowardice.

37 posted on 07/19/2008 9:57:21 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The scariest possibility (to me) is that a potential aggressor might act predicated on their belief that a reflexively apologetic (Obamafied) US Government would do everything in its power to avoid determining or assigning responsibility for the attack.

Even a misguided belief on the part of such an aggressor that the US would not pursue them with unrelenting effort would greatly increase the likelihood of a CBN strike. Much of the Japanese military command did not believe we would respond to an attack on Pearl Harbor as we did. Admiral Yamamoto came to understand otherwise.

38 posted on 07/19/2008 9:58:11 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Well, we’ve been inundated with these dire scenarios for a long time now.

It’s really easy to scare the bejesus out of ourselves.

If you wanted to conduct terror, America could be a relatively easy place to conduct it in. Look at the number of nuts who go postal, etc.

The fact that nothing major has happened is telling.
Consider Gerald Posner’s theory that the Saudis themselves have boobytrapped their wells with nukes so as to negate any threat to them.

Pakistan, well, A PIA jet with a nuke crashing into CONUS would be treated as a “rouge” operation, :>>>


39 posted on 07/21/2008 10:00:31 AM PDT by swarthyguy (Osama Freedom Day: 2500 or so since September 11 2001! That's SIX +years, Dubya.)
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