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Obama Trip No Campaign Stunt: Aides
ABC News AU ^ | 07.19.2008 | AFP

Posted on 07/19/2008 10:00:44 AM PDT by Coffee200am

Barack Obama's campaign has rejected Republican claims that his five-nation Middle East and Europe tour is a political stunt, as it unveiled a packed agenda of talks with leaders.

Campaign spokesman said the Illinois senator would avoid negotiating or trying to make policy during the meetings, in deference to the duties of current President George W Bush.

The campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain has branded Senator Obama's tour, which is expected to draw massive media coverage, as nothing more than a political stunt, especially as it will include a high-profile speech in Berlin.

"That is not what we are doing," Senator Obama's communications adviser Robert Gibbs said

"The speech in Berlin will be a substantive speech about American and European relations, the trip is not at all a campaign trip, a rally of any sort, it is a series of substantive meetings with our friends and allies."

Senator Obama's foreign policy aide Susan Rice said the Illinois senator would discuss issues including climate change, non-proliferation and counter-terrorism in his five-nation tour.

"It is important to note that it is not our intent to make policy, or negotiate, we will not do so, there is one president of the United States at any given time, we will certainly honour and respect that," she said.

But the campaign did not give timings or locations for the talks and meetings, apparently due to security concerns.

In Jordan, where local officials say he is expected on Monday, Senator Obama will meet King Abdullah II.

In Israel he will meet Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, President Shimon Peres, Defence Minister Ehud Barak, Opposition Likud Party leader Benjamin Netanyahu, and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni.

He will also hold talks with Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas, the campaign said, but would not confirm reports from Ramallah that the Senator would travel to the West Bank to do so.

The campaign also said it had not yet decided where Senator Obama would give a speech in Berlin, following controversy over a reported attempt to hold an event at the highly symbolic Brandenburg Gate.

However, senior adviser Ben Rhodes said that Senator Obama had recognised that it would be presumptuous to speak at the gate, site of a famous appearance by former president Ronald Reagan in 1987.

In France, Senator Obama will hold talks with President Nicolas Sarkozy, and at the end of his tour he will meet British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Opposition Conservative Party leader David Cameron.


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Yep...
1 posted on 07/19/2008 10:00:44 AM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: Coffee200am

They called it!


2 posted on 07/19/2008 10:03:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Coffee200am

Let me tell you something: it won’t be long at all till the left is insisting that people in these countries be allowed to vote in American elections. The supreme court will be taking a very close look at the idea, and their reaction will not be at all unfavorable.

The argument will be along these lines: America, as the world’s only remaining superpower, has such an overwhelming effect on the lives of people abroad that they should be allowed to vote in our elections, out of a sense of fairness.


3 posted on 07/19/2008 10:03:50 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Coffee200am

No, nothing this guy ever does is about politics.


4 posted on 07/19/2008 10:05:12 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Coffee200am
>>>>>Barack Obama's campaign has rejected Republican claims that his five-nation Middle East and Europe tour is a political stunt...

And to that I say, BULL!

5 posted on 07/19/2008 10:05:40 AM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: Coffee200am
If it's not a stunt, I'm sure Obama will soon be telling the assembled media that they will not be traveling with him for this trip.

Right?

6 posted on 07/19/2008 10:08:04 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Coffee200am

I think that speech he’s giving in Germany has political disaster written all over it. I imagine that a few hundred thousand adoring Euro lunatics are going to show up and, with the help of the media, its going to look like they’re coronating their new savior.

That ain’t gonna play well back here in the US, I don’t believe. His loony followers will love it, but its going to scare the hell out of everyone else.


7 posted on 07/19/2008 10:08:26 AM PDT by VOR78
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To: Coffee200am

Watch him bash President Bush in a speech, directly or indirectly..


9 posted on 07/19/2008 10:09:53 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Coffee200am
Campaign spokesman said the Illinois senator would avoid negotiating or trying to make policy during the meetings, in deference to the duties of current President George W Bush.

Onion, right? This MUST be satire.

10 posted on 07/19/2008 10:10:18 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Coffee200am
BO in Afghanistan ... landed about 1515 local and was gone by 1800,...

Just long enough to go to the airport gift shop, get a pressie photo taken, visit the head, make sure the passport was stamped and reboard the plane.

Yet they have the NERVE to say is not a campaign stunt! POOO-LEEEEE-ZZZ!

11 posted on 07/19/2008 10:11:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Coffee200am
For Sale!


12 posted on 07/19/2008 10:12:24 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Coffee200am
Of course it is a stunt.

He was in Afghanistan long enough for a refueling, a giftshop visit, and a photo.

13 posted on 07/19/2008 10:12:55 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Reagan Man
When a junior senator makes a policy speech in a foreign country, it's called politics. When he meets in Private with heads of States, it's called "Wisdom".

The guy is an "unwise" politician with a big, fat ego.

14 posted on 07/19/2008 10:14:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Steely Tom
Let me tell you something: it won’t be long at all till the left is insisting that people in these countries be allowed to vote in American elections.

They're already doing it.

Here's one example.

15 posted on 07/19/2008 10:16:02 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: Coffee200am
Barack Obama's campaign has rejected Republican claims that his five-nation Middle East and Europe tour is a political stunt

Yeah, it just HAPPENED to come during the campaign, and this same laughable "senator" has never once made any effort to visit these countries until now ...

16 posted on 07/19/2008 10:24:08 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Coffee200am
the Illinois senator would avoid negotiating or trying to make policy during the meetings, in deference to the duties of current President George W Bush.

Or how about because he has no standing to negotiate anything except maybe his cab fare?

17 posted on 07/19/2008 10:25:40 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Fresh Wind

Wow. I had no idea my idea would come true so soon. Thanks.


18 posted on 07/19/2008 10:32:08 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Coffee200am
Obama Trip No Campaign Stunt: Aides

ROTFL!!! They must think everyone living in this country is as dumb as their voter base. Or maybe they were just speaking to their voter base.

19 posted on 07/19/2008 10:34:51 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The U.S. Constitution was not written to protect those who want to destroy America.)
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To: Coffee200am

WHO IS PAYING THE EXPENSES OF THIS JUNKET?

If the taxpayers are — and it’s a “fact finding” trip, why all the Leftist Speaking Heads in tow?

If the Obama campaign is paying the expenses, then by definition it is a campaign photo op and propaganda tool.

Obama lies and shit attracts flies..... The natural state.


20 posted on 07/19/2008 10:42:37 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
If the taxpayers are — and it’s a “fact finding” trip, why all the Leftist Speaking Heads in tow?

If the Obama campaign is paying the expenses, then by definition it is a campaign photo op and propaganda tool.

I admit that I don't know how it is these days but in the past, while riding on campaign charters the press corps and such paid 150 percent of the one way first class fare for the trip. That removed the stigma of it being a bribe to the press. Somehow I don't think that rule is still in effect. Anybody know?

21 posted on 07/19/2008 11:00:38 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: NittanyLion
Right. Uh huh. Sure thing.


22 posted on 07/19/2008 11:09:50 AM PDT by Gloucester
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To: Coffee200am
Welcome to Bizarro World where everything is opposite!
23 posted on 07/19/2008 11:11:58 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Coffee200am
"Campaign spokesman said the Illinois senator would avoid negotiating or trying to make policy during the meetings, in deference to the duties of current President George W Bush.

Well - I'm happy this PRESUMED DNC CANDIDATE hasn't decided to bypass the niceties of NOMINATION and ELECTION before he assumed the duty of our sitting President.

The arrogance and ignorance of Obama's staff is breathtaking - to feel they even have to point out that Obama will not start acting as President before he is elected President...

Obama has surrounded himself with fools...
But them - his entire electorate must qualify as fools to see anything of "hope" in this affirmative action racist and overreaching unaccomplished lightweight.

24 posted on 07/19/2008 11:15:52 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Coffee200am
To me, this whole Mid East trip for Obama is like a student reading the Cliff Notes. He doesn't have ANY international experience, especially to do with the mid east (except what Pastor Jeremiah Wright shared with him). Now he is reading the Cliff Notes, that is, making a quick trip over there to try to show he is up on the subject. In other words he is reading the notes because he didn't bother to read the book.
It's all smoke and mirrors.
25 posted on 07/19/2008 11:22:10 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Coffee200am
Hey, if they admitted that it was a political stunt, they'd have to pay for it. Barry is just a regular Senator, on a regular fact finding trip. All courtesy of the American taxpayer.

The problem being... If it looks, acts and walks like a duck, then it's probably a duck. And everybody, including much of the American electorate, sees this as a political stunt, because it looks, acts and walks like a political stunt.

With 70% of the medias attention going to Barry O, all the daily tracking polls give him a whopping 1 to 4 point advantage over McLaim. And if the Bradley Effect is taken into account, McCain is probably ahead of him most tracking polls. LOL

26 posted on 07/19/2008 11:22:40 AM PDT by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: Gloucester

Very good but could be considered an insult to the movie. LOL


27 posted on 07/19/2008 11:25:02 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Coffee200am

Obama’s campaign would never lie to us about anything.

I’m always surprised by these political advisors’ very low opinion of the public’s intelligence.


28 posted on 07/19/2008 11:35:23 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: VOR78

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t a great many of our ancestors leave Europe because they were tired of being kicked around there? Now we’re supposed to be concerned about what they think of our political campaign?

Obama and the liberals should go live in Europe.


29 posted on 07/19/2008 11:38:34 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: SERKIT

“Welcome to Bizarro World where everything is opposite!”

Only to stupid liberal politicos and their equally stupid enablers in the news media.


30 posted on 07/19/2008 11:40:58 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: Steely Tom

Of course, you’ll NEVER hear the Euros suggesting that Americans ought to be able to vote in their elections.


31 posted on 07/19/2008 12:13:01 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: Coffee200am
"That is not what we are doing,"

Yes it is.

32 posted on 07/19/2008 12:16:44 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Coffee200am
"Barack Obama's campaign has rejected Republican claims that his five-nation Middle East and Europe tour is a political stunt,...."


33 posted on 07/19/2008 12:18:06 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Coffee200am
Barack Obama's campaign has rejected Republican claims that his five-nation Middle East and Europe tour is a political stunt, as it unveiled a packed agenda of talks with leaders.

If it weren't a stunt, they wouldn't have felt the need to 'unveil' their agenda, stressing the 'leaders' with whom Obama is meeting.

How many times has John McCain been to Iraq, and we never knew it, because he didn't make a big deal show of it? The MSM certainly didn't follow him around like smitten puppy dogs.

34 posted on 07/19/2008 1:56:22 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Coffee200am

Tis is one of those non-stunt stunts


35 posted on 07/19/2008 2:01:22 PM PDT by woofie
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You beat me to it. I just couldn’t believe the arrogance of that sentence.


36 posted on 07/19/2008 4:37:55 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Coffee200am
Obama Trip No Campaign Stunt: Aides

These people are a joke. Of course that's what it is. What an insult anyone with a modicum of intelligence - it's really not that bad of a campaign stunt (at least in theory) so it's kind of ridiculous for them to go on the defensive with something ridiculous like this.

37 posted on 07/19/2008 7:32:36 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: river rat

“If the taxpayers are —”

Then the MCain campaign has a feast to use as campaign material. I wonder if a probe will be done.


38 posted on 07/22/2008 3:22:45 PM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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