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We Are Soldiers Still: A Journey Back to the Battlefields of Vietnam
Amazon ^ | 7/19/08

Posted on 07/19/2008 10:29:49 AM PDT by XR7

In their stunning follow-up to the classic bestseller, We Were Soldiers Once...and Young, Lt. Gen. Hal Moore and Joe Galloway return to Vietnam and reflect on how the war changed them, their men, their enemies, and both countries—often with surprising results.

More than fifteen years since its original publication, the number one New York Times bestseller, We Were Soldiers Once...and Young is still required reading in all branches of the military. Now Moore and Galloway revisit their relationships with ten American veterans of the battle—men such as Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley and helicopter pilot Bruce "Old Snake" Crandall—as well as Lt. Gen. Nguyen Hu An, who commanded the North Vietnamese Army troops on the other side, and two of his old company commanders. These men and their countries have all changed dramatically since the first head-on collision between the two great armies back in November 1965.

Traveling back to the red-dirt battlefields, commanders and veterans from both sides make the long and difficult journey from old enemies to new friends. After a trip in a Russian-made helicopter to the Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands, with the Vietnamese pilots using Moore's vintage U.S. Army maps and Galloway's Boy Scout compass to guide them, they reach the hallowed ground where so many died. All the men are astonished at how nature has reclaimed the land once scarred by bullets, napalm, and blood. As darkness falls, the unthinkable happens—the authors and many of their old comrades are stranded overnight, alone, left to confront the ghosts of the departed among the termite hills and creek bed.

Moore and Galloway combine gritty and vivid detail with reverence and respect for their comrades. Their ability to capture man's sense of heroism and brotherhood, their love for their men and their former enemies, and their fascination with the history of this enigmatic country make for riveting reading. With sixteen pages of photos, tributes to departed friends and loved ones, and General Moore's reflections on lessons learned throughout his military career, We Are Soldiers Still puts a human face on warfare in a way that will not soon be forgotten.



TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: arvn; bookreview; cavalry; gi; halmoore; huey; iadrang; lzxray; marines; moore; nam; nva; soldiers; usmc; vietcong; vietnam; vietnamvets
Required reading.
1 posted on 07/19/2008 10:29:49 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Isn’t the author of “We Were Soldiers Once...” a Freeper?


2 posted on 07/19/2008 10:35:14 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thought you'd want to see this, brother.
3 posted on 07/19/2008 10:37:11 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: XR7

My prayer at this time is that we are NOT on the verge of repeating the Vietnam experience in the Middle East.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WDrbbtaO0E

To fallen soldiers let us sing
where no rockets fly nor bullets wing
Our broken brothers let us bring
to the mansions of the Lord

No more bleeding no more fight
No prayers pleading through the night
just divine embrace, eternal light
in the mansions of the Lord

Where no mothers cry and no children weep
We will stand and guard though the angels sleep
All through the ages safely keep the mansions of the Lord


4 posted on 07/19/2008 10:37:20 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

ping


5 posted on 07/19/2008 10:37:40 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Steely Tom; ALOHA RONNIE

> Isn’t the author of “We Were Soldiers Once...” a Freeper?

You mean Joe Galloway or Gen Hal Moore?

I dunno if he is (do you know, Ronnie?) but I do know that if you e-mail Joe Galloway with an intelligent question he will respond.


6 posted on 07/19/2008 10:39:20 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: XR7; ALOHA RONNIE
THE VIETNAM ERA - ('60s-'70s music)
7 posted on 07/19/2008 10:45:04 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: DieHard the Hunter
No, I thought ALOHA RONNIE was the nom de freep of the author.
8 posted on 07/19/2008 10:53:58 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Steely Tom

> No, I thought ALOHA RONNIE was the nom de freep of the author.

Aloha Ronnie was Gen Moore’s radioman. Check out his ABOUT page.


9 posted on 07/19/2008 10:55:38 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Aloha Ronnie was Gen Moore’s radioman. Check out his ABOUT page.

Thanks for correcting me.

I've looked at Aloha Ronnie's ABOUT page many times; there's a lot there! I missed the answer to my question, though.

10 posted on 07/19/2008 11:08:06 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: XR7

Galloway is a strong critic of the Iraq war and of President Bush. He has weekly opinions that I pretty much ignore in the Sunday paper, since he is such a Bush hater.


11 posted on 07/19/2008 11:11:26 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Ronnie was with S-1 or S-3, I forget, he was not at the Battle, he did deal with the supply and support end of it as I recall.

I have been trying to meet him since he signed on. I was at Camp Zama, coming in country in 12/65, when a lot of Cav guy's we going home.

12 posted on 07/19/2008 11:11:49 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: marvlus
Galloway is a strong critic of the Iraq war and of President Bush.

Wisdom born of experience?

13 posted on 07/19/2008 11:14:10 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Nicely done flash animation of the battle of LZ X Ray.
http://www.wtj.com/articles/xray/


14 posted on 07/19/2008 11:16:24 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Black dogs and bacon bombs.)
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To: marvlus

> Galloway is a strong critic of the Iraq war and of President Bush. He has weekly opinions that I pretty much ignore in the Sunday paper, since he is such a Bush hater.

Seeing how he lived thru Ia Drang, I reckon that Joe Galloway has earned Respect, irrespective of what he thinks about George Bush and the war in Iraq.


15 posted on 07/19/2008 11:17:34 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Little Bill

You guys were heroes to my generation. Thankyou for your Service.


16 posted on 07/19/2008 11:19:12 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: XR7

Fantastic book. Its a shame that all BN commanders could not have been as great as Moore. And the movie? I’m no expert but I liked it.


17 posted on 07/19/2008 11:24:22 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: quadrant

> And the movie? I’m no expert but I liked it.

IMO Sam Elliot stole the show as Basil L Plumley. Unforgettable.


18 posted on 07/19/2008 11:30:36 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I think that Galloway and The Hack, David Hackworth, for that matter, were and are stuck in a 40 year old mind set, Colin Powell is an other example. As an Infantry guy, the ANZAC, Limey, and GI's now are much better than we were, hit YouTube with a critical eye. It isn't that Gi's, Diggers, and Squadies haven't done the job they are paid for it is the Bagless Pols.
19 posted on 07/19/2008 11:35:07 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: XR7

Viet Nam veteran ping


20 posted on 07/19/2008 11:43:49 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Little Bill

> As an Infantry guy, the ANZAC, Limey, and GI’s now are much better than we were,

It may be so, but what I do know is that, as a young kid in school, I used to watch the newsreels awestruck and amazed, every Wednesday afternoon after lunch hour, of what you guys were doing in Vietnam.

I think that, perhaps, the newsreels had the opposite effect on me than what our teachers wanted them to have: they were hippies and commies thru-and-thru. Anyrate, I left those brainwashing sessions with the firm conviction that soldiers were Good Guys and Heroes.

> I think that Galloway and The Hack, David Hackworth, for that matter, were and are stuck in a 40 year old mind set,

I used to enjoy reading The Hack, it is a shame that he’s dead now. He was always onto the “perfumed Princes” and styled himself as a champion of the average soldier. That said, he didn’t seem to have too much nice to say for the modern army. I recall a couple of his articles that were fairly blistering over modern entrance requirements and training standards.

> It isn’t that Gi’s, Diggers, and Squadies haven’t done the job they are paid for it is the Bagless Pols.

Politicians these days are all ball-less wonders and they seem Hell-bent on snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory. It makes no sense to me: why would anyone want to see their country lose a war??


21 posted on 07/19/2008 12:06:10 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
IMO Sam Elliot stole the show as Basil L Plumley. Unforgettable.

Watched the movie again last night on cable.

It is a fantastic effort to recreate the feel of really being in a firefight.

Sam Elliot owns any scene he is in.

They say that smart people learn from their experiences but the really smart people learn from the expeiences of others. I'm afraid we have too many of the former and not enough of the later because we are seeing some of the same erroneous assumptions at high levels that cost us so much in 'nam.

Semper Fi brothers And God bless all vets and active military

22 posted on 07/19/2008 12:14:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Dick Bachert; do the dhue; XR7

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MEL’s -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts

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23 posted on 07/19/2008 12:23:54 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

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See Actor SAM ELLIOTT Photo:

RONNIE GUYER PHOTO COLLECTION

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

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24 posted on 07/19/2008 12:27:15 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Little Bill

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See “ALOHA RONNIE” Guyer photos personally taken in the Valley of Death known as the IA DRANG Valley of Novermber 1965 - Landing Zone Falcon, 3 air minutes out from Landing Zone X-Ray:

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set2.htm

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set3.htm

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25 posted on 07/19/2008 12:34:51 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; XR7; mdcrandall; Boston; DieHard the Hunter; smoothsailing; reformjoy; conservogirl; ...

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For...

...WE ARE SOLDIERS STILL:

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55092

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26 posted on 07/19/2008 12:43:50 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...

Ping


27 posted on 07/19/2008 2:46:32 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: XR7

Bump for later reading.


28 posted on 07/19/2008 7:47:13 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Love that pic of you and Teddy before Chippaquiddick.
He was a lot slimmer then...and young.


29 posted on 07/20/2008 12:58:07 AM PDT by XR7
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To: All; XR7

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Sen. TED KENNEDY toured a then Free South Vietnam in the Fall of 1965 to personally see for himself precisely what the fight for Freedom was really all about there. The proof is in the photo of the two of us taken in the Vientam Central Highlands’ 1st Cavalry Divsion (Airmobile) Headquarters.

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

In other words, Sen. TED KENNEDY just knew better than to lead a post-Watergate Democrat Congress into cutting off all our funding for the then Free South Vietnamese to fight for their own Freedom with against a Communist invasion from the North.

Bringing down on so very many poor S.E. Asian souls a most horrid:

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..”JOURNEY from the FALL”..

http://www.JourneyFromTheFall.com

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806248/posts

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NEVER ever AGAIN!!!

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30 posted on 07/20/2008 1:04:45 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; XR7

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A full chapter of this new MOORE/GALLOWAY collaboration is entirely devoted to 9/11 Lifesaver RICK RESCORLA, R.I.P.

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361

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31 posted on 07/21/2008 11:02:33 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; XR7; smoothsailing; Calpernia; mdcrandall; Boston

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New books about Vietnam

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=961108

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32 posted on 08/09/2008 8:24:30 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; DieHard the Hunter; XR7; Little Bill; freema; Suzie-Q; fatima; Calpernia; reformjoy; ...

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CLARITY =

First hand Stories (Truly unforgettable combat soldier drawings)

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65452

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33 posted on 08/10/2008 12:17:06 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

By Average John
More at link
34 posted on 08/10/2008 12:36:36 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Tonk is our brother, Ronnie, NEVER FORGET,

Photobucket

35 posted on 08/10/2008 8:45:01 PM PDT by smoothsailing ( Bill Russell can defeat John Murtha - Visit http://russellbrigade.com/)
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To: All; XR7; mdcrandall; Lexington Green; smoothsailing; Calpernia; Anita1; reformjoy; ...

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NEVER FORGET

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For...

..’WE ARE SOLDIERS STILL’.. The Website

http://www.WeAreSoldiersStill.com

(Book Release Date - August 19th, 2008)

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For...

...more on the Battle of IA DRANG-1965

http://www.lzxray.com

(See ..’Ia Drang - Interest’.. Section)

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NEVER FORGET

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36 posted on 08/16/2008 5:56:57 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WDrbbtaO0E


37 posted on 08/16/2008 7:44:10 PM PDT by Dick Bachert ( i)
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To: All; Dick Bachert; do the dhue; Anita1

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NEVER FORGET

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Saddleback College Plans Memorial Day completion of new monument
(F/R’s Aloha Ronnie sings ‘Mansions of the Lord’)

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982490/posts

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NEVER FORGET

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38 posted on 08/16/2008 8:50:18 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; do the dhue; Anita1; Calpernia; smoothsailing; Jimmy Valentine's brother; CBart95; ...

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NEVER FORGET

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CLARITY =

The Best Vietnam War Movie Poll

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52281

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NEVER FORGET

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39 posted on 08/17/2008 12:24:52 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping.

Look forward to reading the book.


40 posted on 08/18/2008 4:38:10 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrat, a synonym for Traitor)
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To: All; XR7; Dick Bachert; do the dhue; Anita1

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NEVER FORGET

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CLARITY =

They are still soldiers

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66978

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NEVER FORGET

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41 posted on 08/25/2008 7:27:26 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks.
BTTT


42 posted on 08/25/2008 8:00:12 PM PDT by XR7
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

True American Heroes: Ronnie Guyer with Lt. Gen Hal Moore (ret)
43 posted on 08/27/2008 8:02:16 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
...what I do know is that, as a young kid in school, I used to watch the newsreels awestruck and amazed, every Wednesday afternoon after lunch hour, of what you guys were doing in Vietnam.

I think that, perhaps, the newsreels had the opposite effect on me than what our teachers wanted them to have: they were hippies and commies thru-and-thru.[some things never change] Anyrate, I left those brainwashing sessions with the firm conviction that soldiers were Good Guys and Heroes.

I think that Galloway and The Hack, David Hackworth, for that matter, were and are stuck in a 40 year old mind set,

I used to enjoy reading The Hack, it is a shame that he’s dead now. He was always onto the “perfumed Princes” and styled himself as a champion of the average soldier. That said, he didn’t seem to have too much nice to say for the modern army. I recall a couple of his articles that were fairly blistering over modern entrance requirements and training standards.

It isn’t that Gi’s, Diggers, and Squadies haven’t done the job they are paid for it is the Bagless Pols.

Politicians these days are all ball-less wonders and they seem Hell-bent on snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory. It makes no sense to me: why would anyone want to see their country lose a war??

Your words are timeless, and need be repeated often, with emphasis! Oh, and I strongly identify with your first thought, but I was an 'old' student at the time, and an even older 'soldier' when I got there as a PFC. Here's hoping that the Obama cabinet doesn't 'impress us' with their version of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

44 posted on 01/25/2009 8:03:10 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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