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1 posted on 07/21/2008 8:39:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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"Obama's visit this week to Israel will be an opportunity to begin asking the tough questions, however unpolitically correct,"

Someone's got to ask these, our MSM sure won't.

2 posted on 07/21/2008 8:49:20 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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“Will Obama and his people continue to stonewall in the facing of the mounting evidence of forgery,”

The Democrat Party and MSM learned from the Swifties- never let the new media break into the old.

This will be completely ignored by MSM no matter what.


3 posted on 07/21/2008 8:52:26 PM PDT by DBrow
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His friggin resume’ is forged. This guy will usher in the demise of this nation....mark it down.


4 posted on 07/21/2008 8:52:50 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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If this is true, why didn’t the Hildebeast use this info (not a natural born citizen) to knock him out of the running?


6 posted on 07/21/2008 8:56:26 PM PDT by El Sordo
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IMO this has become a put-up or shutup story.

Produce the goods, or don’t even bother to write it.

... let alone post it (for the 25th time in 2 months).


7 posted on 07/21/2008 8:57:55 PM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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The Drive-by Media are more likely to print the patently silly “McCain was born a Panamanian, and isn’t eligible to be President” story, than to print anything factual about Obama’s provenance and upbringing. Whether the certificate in question is a forgery or not, the Media will argue that he has a right to protect his private information, and that Hussein is a citizen until proven otherwise (which they will make absolutely no attempt to do). The only way this story could get any “legs” is if the McCain Campaign or the RNC went to court on the matter, in which case (assuming they are wrong) Obama would become the ultimate “victim” of Republican “racism” and xenophobia. And even if Obama were shown to be an ineligible non-native citizen, Hillary will be waiting in the wings...


8 posted on 07/21/2008 8:58:01 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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Ultimately, who’s responsibility is it to confirm that a candidate for President does, in fact, meet the constitutional requirement for being a “natural born citizen”?


9 posted on 07/21/2008 8:58:49 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Can someone let me know if the FBI can get involved? I would think this is up their alley. If not, what law enforcement agency has control over this type of investigation? And what about the agency where he filed his papers to run???


13 posted on 07/21/2008 9:08:42 PM PDT by Pit1
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So what? Prove it or drop it, the guy was born somehow, somewhere. This is a non-issue.


15 posted on 07/21/2008 9:11:38 PM PDT by bigbob (2)
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Everything about Obama is phony, even his birth certificate. The slimeballs at the Daily Kos will tell any lie to further their leftist, anti-American cause. There are too many things that are so wrong about Obama. He may give the airheads in the MSM tingly feelings up and down their legs but he doesn't fool me.
17 posted on 07/21/2008 9:25:44 PM PDT by detective
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And will the mass media and mainstream pundits, which so far have hesitated to touch the hot potato, finally address the loaded issue of his possible unfitness to meet the basic Constitutional requirement for a President?

Don't hold your breath.

Perhaps we could get rush or Hanity to run with the story.

23 posted on 07/21/2008 9:39:46 PM PDT by chaos_5
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I don’t think the white halos around the letters prove much. A similar effect was achieved in JPEG Wizard 1.4.0 by simply loading a known good file and saving with a luma compression value of 100 and a chroma compression value of 500. The fact that the border doesn’t match any other known specimens, and the letter shapes seem a little off from known specimens are more suspect.


32 posted on 07/21/2008 10:31:09 PM PDT by supercat
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This is an interesting story, an important story, but also a very, very long running story.

In 2004 it took only days for the Dan Rather forgeries to be revealed and go national.

This story just idles along, never gaining national traction, which seems strange if it’s really true.


37 posted on 07/21/2008 11:02:22 PM PDT by zeestephen
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Good job. Keep the issue alive. This should not go away.

Obama or any candidate for that matter is in effect applying for the W/H job. We the voters, have every right to examine the resumes and get questions answered.

In a recent study, over 50% of job applicants either lied or exaggerated on their job resumes. Now, does Obama fall in this category? We shall see.

The onus is on Obama to show proof he is eligible to run for Office, not the other way around.


39 posted on 07/21/2008 11:06:39 PM PDT by m4629
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Couldn’t it be possible that somewhere they are holding his real birth certificate, ready to be whipped out, for two purposes; 1)to waste the time and resources of researchers who could possibly be uncovering even more damning information - and 2)to make conservatives look like paranoid ‘kooks’?


44 posted on 07/21/2008 11:19:54 PM PDT by maclay (America First - The rest of the world comes second)
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I've been refining my essay on why it doesn't matter whether the COLB on the web is real or not, because it's not really "real" until the physical thing is shown for others to hands-on inspect.

Counterfeit money was probably the first government document to be forged. Teenagers got forged IDs to go drinking. 9/11 perps got forged drivers licenses from 7/11 parking lots. Voter registrars like Acorn forge signatures, candidates (like Obama) challenged candidate application signatures as forged or unqualified to eliminate opposition.

The MSM has run altered photos, darkened photos, mis-reported photos, staged photos, Middle East fauxtography. Just a few weeks ago we had the altered photo of Iran's missile launch.

So now we have birth certificates. And now we're being asked to accept web facsimiles of parts of physical documents as if they were the real thing, with all the legal authority that comes with the real thing.

I'm concerned about the possible future precedent of reliance on web facsimiles of parts of documents, rather than the actual physical thing itself, especially for something as important as the presidency of the United States. Even with the forged Texas Air National Guard documents, CBS "experts" complained that they were only shown images of the documents, but never the actual documents themselves, and so were reluctant to authenticate them.

Have we learned nothing from the CBS fiasco? Show us the real thing already.

-PJ

46 posted on 07/21/2008 11:35:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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Since Obama has not cooperated by producing his real birth certificate, he must be forced by a Court to produce the originals and swear under oath that they are the originals..

If he cannot, he should remove himself as a presidential candidate since the truth will eventually come out..If it is found he lied about his natural born citizenship, he could and should be impeached to preserve the integrity of the Presidency, that is if he were to be elected...we hope not..


48 posted on 07/21/2008 11:40:38 PM PDT by billmor (The American Voter--the Sleeping Tiger. Kicked in the back end.)
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Barack Obama Birth Certificate a Forgery?!

Fixed.

50 posted on 07/22/2008 2:24:10 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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TechDude did some nice work, but also did some nice lifting of my ideas. He, TexasDarlin, and myself agreed to collaborate on one joint report, but I guess that TechDude didn’t want to share the limelight with us, and went renegade on our asses.

His border comparison is a direct ripoff of mine, with
nary a mention of my name,

I wanted to add my 2 cents on the “How” the forgery was made. One of his two scenarios is the plausible one. Washing the toner off of a piece of paper is not it, and as is off-the-wall as it gets.

I defer to Occam’s Razor and the theory of Serendipity here.

There is no doubt that the forgery was done electronically (TechDude’s “other” scenario which is my scenario), and that the odd border could well have been made using dry transfer graphics, like LetraSet. That would explain the smeared patterns.

If you’ve never seen dry transfer letters and graphics, they come on a sheet of clear plastic, like a transparency, and you place it over your paper, and rub against the other side, thereby transferring the letters or border to the paper.


54 posted on 07/22/2008 7:31:14 AM PDT by Polarik (obama, birth certificate)
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65 posted on 07/22/2008 9:49:44 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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