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To: shrinkermd

Bull Sh**. The only answer to this is that the US did NOT lose the war. The politicians forced a withdrawal on us. The Vietcong was done, we won but the MSM lied and more soldiers died. There are no various answers, only one truthful answer. The US was betrayed by the left wing media and by communist a**hats such as Jane Fonda. I was there, I lived through it. Tout your “it depends on your point of view” somewhere else. We lost because the frickin’ communist traitors here in the US forced it on us.


4 posted on 07/22/2008 4:31:17 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

God bless you my friend. My dad was also there and it was with him till the day he died. The only answer is the Communist left and the media. Walter Kronasswipe.


8 posted on 07/22/2008 4:34:40 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: calex59

Amen.


10 posted on 07/22/2008 4:34:51 PM PDT by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks (boat steersman ) hell)
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To: calex59

Thank you for your service in time of war. My DEROS was 17 May 1969. I have never thought we lost, but almost everyone I know professionally does believe we lost.

If the MSM wanted truth, they could ask Senators McCain and Obama whether they believe the US lost the VietNam War. That would be an answer worth listening to.


14 posted on 07/22/2008 4:36:49 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: calex59
We lost because the frickin’ communist traitors here in the US forced it on us.

I like your answer the best, but it needs some modification. Initially, the US public supports the military in a war, but that support is gradually undermined by the the traitors in our midst. Thus, we have a fairly limited opportunity to do whatever is necessary to defeat the enemy, before the guilt-trippers take over.

Clearly, we were not willing to risk nuclear war with the USSR over Vietnam. And short of that, we are stuck fighting a holding operation, that can only sap the enemy until political pressures from the traitors pull us out. We should have flattened Fallujah the very minute that pictures of dead burnt bodies of Americans were hanging from that bridge, the American people understood that.

The simple truth is, during the initial surge, you can get away with whatever you want, unless it would provoke an equal and opposite reaction from the other side. Any President who doesn't understand this has no business sending our armed forces into battle in a place that we have no intention of keeping.

34 posted on 07/22/2008 5:04:55 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: calex59

Exactly right. The blood of those slaughtered when S. Viet Nam fell is on the heads of the Media Marxists and the Democratic Congress people who forced us into failure.


35 posted on 07/22/2008 5:21:38 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Tony Snow founnd out - to live is Christ, to die is gain....Thanks be to God for Tony's life!)
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To: calex59

Amen, bro.


37 posted on 07/22/2008 5:33:48 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: calex59
The Vietcong was done, we won but the MSM lied and more soldiers died.

Pretty much the same case in Iraq. We would have lost the Iraq War if it wasn't for David Petraeus, a savior General.

56 posted on 08/22/2013 6:40:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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