Posted on 07/22/2008 10:30:52 PM PDT by rockinqsranch
Already, some shippers, truckers and others who don't want to make changes are choosing other ports, according to Knatz, who said port traffic could drop 10 percent to 15 percent.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
Mexican Ports Authority is salivating and rubbing hands together with great joy.
Mexican Ports Authority is salivating and rubbing hands together with great joy.
Comment:
I read where a new port is being built down in Baja.
FMCDH(BITS)
What do people think the corridor through Texas was all about?
This has been the plan all along. The ports on the west coast are dead once that goes through.
Back in the late 1960’s, early 1970’s as I have posted on multiple other similar topic threads there was expressed grief by foreign vessel operators at the costs of doing business at American Ports of call. Unions were the primary grief. Today the option of Mexico draws closer as our “Leaders” price us even further beyond reality with laws based upon exaggerated or contrived statistics of health and pollution of the surrounding communities.
I stick my neck out stating that don't I? The reason I say it is because they are claiming that after forty years plus of “cleaning the air” we have to be radical all of a sudden because of health and environmental problems surrounding the harbor area. Guess who moved into the housing surrounding the harbor area? Let's just say...the unhealthy Third Worlders often known as the uninsured.
What other ports...? Good luck getting your goods through the ports in Baja. They tried that during the strike and more than one company lost their goods on the roads north.
We tried to tranfer some garment business to Mexico and two out of five containers went missing before they got out of the country. We did not eat the loss but the loss cost us on the shelf.
As for ports in Texas, if they can get through the Panama Canal, maybe. Others may have more information on that. And maybe shipping out of Texas will be easier - Dolly will soon be gone.
The problem in LA was the diesel trucks lined up and idling upwind of neighborhoods. You can say that is nothing but if you lived downwind of all that diesel you would not think it an insignificant matter.
We shall see. Tough talk is just talk until shippers actually start specifying another port. Risks of Mexico ports vs. extra transit time to Texas will go against tougher rules against pollution in LA and Long Beach ports.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
The big guys will make the adjustment. It's the little guys who can't afford to meet the new regs who will go out of business. But what else is new? California has been running business off since Reagan left office. In the long run the changes will be good, but the short run will be tough. They could have done this more gradually and less stringently with the same effect.
“Tough talk is just talk until shippers actually start specifying another port. Risks of Mexico ports vs. extra transit time to Texas will go against tougher rules against pollution in LA and Long Beach ports.”
The reason I posted about the late ‘60’s, and early ‘70’s was because I was there. Thirty-five years in the harbor, and off dock associated Port businesses with the idling trucks, the ships, actually living for a time downwind of the Ports but inland more. I grew up in the area.
An aside to all this is that I love the smell of the Harbor, and I have known others whom left the harbor for more lucrative positions, and have sent notes on Christmas cards, or other letters, conversations etc. whom wish they had not. There’s something about the Harbor, the ships, the aura of the Port that is quite special.
My point once again is, the Vessel operators being mostly, actually all of them were foreign owned, did not like the costs of operating through our Ports due the Unions specifically, and sought any means to cut those costs.
Mexican Ports, theft, inconvenience will become less, not necessarily eliminated, but less as the Mexican Government addresses that problem. The Vessel Operators will move their operations from our onerous and costly Ports to Mexico for the cost savings they have long desired.
The laws now being created in California under the guise of Environmental Health, Carbon Footprints, Global Warming, whatever will kick the business down South faster than you can say “Hanging Garment Rack” Containers. Yeah, those are what those you mentioned were called; “HGR’s”.
This focus though isn’t really the topic. Wrecking the American economy for control is what it’s all about. This topic is simply part of a larger picture.
Prayers for America.
“...but Mexican trucks can’t do it.”
The clique of One Worlder’s infesting our Government be they elected or not are working towards a goal. The Mexican trucks will be doing it, unless we the people get off our butts and make the necessary changes in our Government to save this Nation from those Mexican trucks (symbolic) which are really a small part of an overall scheme to bring America to its knees.
The port expansion at Lazaro Cardenas has been completed and traffic will gradually increase.
In the meantime, KCS is in the process of rail expansion to accommodate it.
First, the new rail yard adjoining the port. Then the two new rail brides over the Rio Grande, And the yard expansion in Fort Bend county.
Likewise, the expansion at Manzanita will be accompanied by a Union Pacific expansion.
The Port of LA is about to feel some serious competition. Not from Mexico but from the Port of Prince Ruppert in Canada. This new port is just getting started and has some advantages not known by many. The sailing times from many of the Pacific rim countries is shorter, and rail miles to Chicago are nearly equal. See here for details.
www.rupertport.com/advantages.htm
If they can remain a low cost provider on the west coast they will bring some real competition to other ports.
There was an election in Mexico over a decade ago that was supposed to fix the problem. There was much fanfare about an end to long standing corruption finally coming to an end. Obviously, that did not happen. You have more faith in the ability of the Mexican government than most. I am not a believer. Problems in Mexico will continue to be a major deterrent to usage of ports in Baja.
The laws now being created in California under the guise of Environmental Health, Carbon Footprints, Global Warming...
Again I disagree. Those reasons may be stated, but for people living downwind of that diesel, it is about their quality of life and damage to their health, perceived or otherwise.
I appreciate you experience and time you spent in the port as a basis of knowledge. The romanticism of the smell of an ocean port, however, predates the diesel engine I am sure.
Quick question. Were you in the port when they stopped the idling diesel trucks, a guy named Larry from AQMD working the issue?
Thanks Ben. I wasn’t aware the port expansion was that far along. I appreciate your comments.
This is true. We cannot forget to include our neighbors to the North benefitting from our stupidity.
“...predates the diesel engine I am sure.”
You’re sure my name is Methuselah eh?
That comment isn’t insulting, just tells me enough about you to not waste my time in debate, so I won’t.
what are you talking about. You said you had a nostalia for the smell of the port. I took that to mean that the diesel from the ships was part of it and that in that you meant to excuse away what others downwind consider fumes.
My point was that a love for the smell of a port more than likely is a time tested sentiment, predating the diesel engine.
I did not mean you predate the diesel engine if that is how you took it.
Bottom line, complaints of neighbors are real and no one should have to live with the diesel fumes wafting over their homes, no matter how romatic others may view those fumes.
If you are excusing those fumes away, then you are wrong, even if you live among them. If I misunderstood you, sorry.
what are you talking about. You said you had a nostalia for the smell of the port. I took that to mean that the diesel from the ships was part of it and that in that you meant to excuse away what others downwind consider fumes.
My point was that a love for the smell of a port more than likely is a time tested sentiment, predating the diesel engine.
I did not mean you predate the diesel engine if that is how you took it.
Bottom line, complaints of neighbors are real and no one should have to live with the diesel fumes wafting over their homes, no matter how romatic others may view those fumes.
If you are excusing those fumes away, then you are wrong, even if you live among them. If I misunderstood you, sorry.
Simply put, you did misunderstand.
Note the word “aside” in the previous post of mention.
Then for the record, you don’t like diesel fumes but think global warming is a half baked idea more akin to religion than having any roots in provable science and leading to fanaticism that will severely impact the economy of the U.S.
Would that be a fair assessment?
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