ENVIRONMENTALISTS OPPOSE NEW CO2 SCRUBBER IDEA

ncpa.org ^ | July 23, 2008

[InvisibleChurch]

Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide (CO2) scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day, says the Heartland Institute.

While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to reduce atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the technology because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the first place.

According to Columbia University physicist Klaus Lackner, who is leading the research team:

Producing a large number of CO2 scrubbers can keep to a minimum any rise in atmospheric CO2 without the economically painful elimination of inexpensive energy sources. This technology would allow people to use fossil fuels, which they will be using anyway, without destroying the planet. Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently opposed similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration, because they do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the Heartland Institute.

"This is just one more piece of evidence that environmentalists aren't concerned about solving a problem," said Sterling Burnett, a senior fellow with the National Center for Policy Analysis. "Every problem, as they see it, is one way to restrict people's lifestyles, and if you come up with a technological fix that can solve a problem but doesn't require sacrifice and lets us go about our business the way we were before, they're not happy about it, even if it solves the problem."

Source: Krystle Russin, "Environmentalists Oppose New CO2 Scrubber Idea," Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008.

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[InvisibleChurch]

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

Ya mean the environmentalist are against trees?

[Devilinbaggypants]

Just more proof that environmetalisim is a mental disorder!

[SF Republican]

The Creator has already done that, they are called trees.

[Slapshot68]

“While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to reduce atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the technology because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the first place.”

The continued lunacy of the left is laughable.

[wastedyears]

Environmentalists are truly out of their minds.

But this finally shows what they want to happen. They want us to completely stop burning fossil fuels.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[seabreezelover]

These a$$hats are going to end up messing up the CO2 levels such that the trees/plants will start dying and then we’ll really be in a pickle!

[DocRock]

bookmark

[sheik yerbouty]

Kool Aid drinking watermelon Gorons who worship at the feet of the Goracle..

[ryan71]

“oppose the technology because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the first place”

Eventually, these people always expose their true goal, which is promoting Communism, not “saving the planet”.

[dennisw]

These eco-traitors hate hydroelectric dams too. You could never build the Hoover Dam or the TVA today. And AlGore gets his electric from the TVA

[andy58-in-nh]

[henkster]

This is so stupid; in any other era, it would be laughable.

But that’s the way the green weenies are. We had a deer overpopulation in Brown County State Park a few years ago; seems all the natural predators were gone and the deer were starving because there were too many of them. So the Indiana DNR had a controlled hunt in the park to cull the herd. Oh how the greenies pi$$ed and moaned!

Their solution? You’re gonna love this....

NORPLANT! Yep, they wanted to catch the does, and give them Norplant as a form of birth control! You just gotta shake your head....

[goldstategop]

Its put the lie to the environuts claim all they want to do is reduce CO2 emissions. Turns out what they really want is to ban our fossil fuel based economy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[HardStarboard]

>>> They want us to completely stop burning fossil fuels.<<<

It's worse than that.

They want us to completely stop! burning fossil fuels.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

The problem for self described “environmentalists” is other people’s prosperity, not carbon. Carbon is a pretext.

[o_zarkman44]

Environmentalists want to stamp out carbon emissions, but they don’t want to reduce carbon emissions?

These nutcases are beyond reason AND NEED TO BE TOLD TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

[fightinbluhen51]

We need a watermelon ping list.

Agree about the unintended consequences of “scrubbing” CO2, since we really don’t know if we are causing it, or if God is causing it.

[fightinbluhen51]

I see it as food for the homeless.

[denydenydeny]

This is not, and has never been about CO2 levels and protecting the planet. It’s about control. Nothing but control.

I do love the development of technologies like this, because they expose the true motives of the Left.

[MrB]

You guys are calling them lunatics and out of their minds.

Nope, they’re simply

FASCISTS

that want to control you. This is exposing them, and that’s what needs to be done - exposing their true agenda.

[dennisw]

Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide (CO2) scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day, says the Heartland Institute.

And how much energy is squandered doing this to placate environmental obsessives?
Looks like another madcap scheme like "carbon sequestration"

[alloysteel]

That is because CO₂ was never perceived as the problem in the first place. It was anybody making a buck out of the conversion of hydrocarbons in any form to carbon dioxide and water they find so unappealing.

Some 99.95% of the "fears" expressed are based on some very bad interpretations taken from a poorly researched "science" fiction novel.

[oh8eleven]

The only way the enviro-whackos will be happy ...

[driftdiver]

“But this finally shows what they want to happen. They want us to completely stop burning fossil fuels.”

I disagree since they also oppose non-fossil fuels. The are against modern technology and the use of energy in general. Their utopia is a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.

[taxcontrol]

Which only shows that it is all NOT about CO2 or global warming.

[o_zarkman44]

“The problem for self described “environmentalists” is other people’s prosperity, not carbon. Carbon is a pretext.”

Yes. Evil capitalist pigs profit from selling carbon based energy, so if they outlaw carbon, they eliminate evil profits.

The true motives are exposed. I say we just start running over them evil enviroweenies and force their lifestyle back to the cave era since that appears to be their motive for everyone else.

[driftdiver]

I’d volunteer to deliver the norplant via my 30-06.

[MississippiMan]

Indeed He did. Amazing how He seemed to think of everything when he put this little planet together. :-)

MM

[A_perfect_lady]

NORPLANT! Yep, they wanted to catch the does, and give them Norplant as a form of birth control!

Can't we do that to the greenies?

[wastedyears]

Well then let them meet the Founding Fathers.

That should go over well...

[jonrick46]

This is one more proof that the enviro-weenies want to eliminate more than CO2. They want to eliminate Capitalism.

The only Capitalism they understand is Das Capitol

[Prophet in the wilderness]

" These a$$hats are going to end up messing up the CO2 levels such that the trees/plants will start dying "

It just proves that the environmentalist are not actually concerned about the environment.... that are politically motivated more than they are motivated about protecting the environment.
Their true agenda is the destruction of the US economy, and the destruction of the US military capability.
The environmentalist movement is just a mask and just another repackaged Marxism, just like Feminism is just another mask of Marxism.

[gridlock]

The Greenies will tell you quite frankly that the “ideal” population for the Earth is only about 5% of what it is now. Of course, they, as our betters, will get ot decide which 5% that will be...

[henkster]

The Norplant would have been far more effective had it been administered to their mothers.

[MrB]

Feminism is just another mask of Marxism

Yes, but it is also just a bunch of juveniles shaking their fists at God because they don't like the role into which they were created.

Isa 3:12 My people! Their oppressors are children, And women rule over them

Notice the bible mentions feminism in the same context as rebellious children.

[John 3_19-21]

There main objective is to make the “Haves” give their earned rewards to the “have-nots” for no compensation.
This scrubber idea does not achieve this.

JC

[Hazwaste]

Their utopia is a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.

I disagree. They're against hunting. :)

Their ultimate fantasy is the end of the human race by some sort of Gaia-based "counter-attack" on us as punishment for our sins.

[A_perfect_lady]

Got a Delorean and some plutonium?

[driftdiver]

“Their ultimate fantasy is the end of the human race by some sort of Gaia-based “counter-attack” on us as punishment for our sins.”

ok I guess you got me there. Have you seen the number of “earth after humans” and disaster ‘documentary’s’on TV?

[Parmy]

This is stupid. Question: What is the energy consumption to scrub the CO2 in relation to the amount of CO2 removed?

In the apple industry, we have been removing CO2 from tightly closed rooms for decades to reduce the O2 and CO2 levels so apples can be stored for long periods. After going through the growing pains with inefficient, expensive equipment the industry now injects N into the rooms to bring the O2 down. This also reduces the level of CO2 to generally less than .5%.

As the apples ripen they give off ethelyne gas which raises the CO2 levels. Rather than use expensive and fuel inefficient scrubbers, we not use hydrated lime to passively scrub the CO2 and keep the levels reduced.

[Reeses]

Gaia-based "counter-attack" on us as punishment for our sins.

Gaia has attacked, with AIDS, and is working on a bird flu to knock out mostly leftists.

[Vlaxo]

The negative response from the left isn't surprising. But i think the problem with left has with the co2 scrubber may just be a marketing issue...

If the Columbia university Scientist where to market this new breakthrough in the following manor. I am sure the left would hop on board with this new tech......

First they should not call it a carbon scrubber.... but a carbon aborter...

Second they should clearly define this new tech as the Carbon After tech....

just a simple suggestion from a simple American

[calex59]

What kind of a dumb a** would want to remove a valuable plant food from the atmosphere? Does anyone in the US have an education at all? Haven’t they heard of trees and plants? Since when is CO2 harmfull to earth? I can’t believe anyone would fall for this especially leaders of countries. These people are supposed to be the best we have and most of them are lining up for this phony BS, and that includes McCain. What a bunch of idiots.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I agree with you, but, the feminist will argue with you that the Bible was written by male sexist chauvinist pigs.
Little do they know, that if they really studied the Bible, that there is no way that man in his intellect in the way it was written over a period of 1500 years, by 40 different people could have written the bible......
The Bible was written by God through the means of the Holy Spirit, men guided by the Holy Spirit through the physical instrument of human minds, and human hands.
If they want to shake their fist in rage at what the Bible says, ( because they are shaking their fist at the authority of the whole Bible ) then, I guess they also shake their fist at the passage were it says " Husbands, Love your wives as Christ also loved the church, even giving himself for it "..... they ( feminist ) can't have it both ways.

[Foolsgold]

The peta type Vegans are now saying that cow flatulence is far worse than cars a single cow produces 100-200 liters of methane and the same amount of CO2 (other "experts" say 800-1000 liters) a cow weighs 1200 to 1500 lbs.A Vegan dinosaur that weighs 130 t0 150 tons would produce 11,447.2 gallons of methane enough to power all my vehicles for a year. I say bring back the dinosaurs.

[fella]

What we need here is a nice picture of a watermelon showing how they are green on the outside and red on the inside.

[vrwc1]

Their utopia is a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.

Since they're against hunting, I think their utopia is actually a "gatherer lifestyle". :-)

[mainestategop]

While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to reduce atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the technology because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the first place.

Environmentalists don't want to solve problems, just promote Marxism and destroy America.