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Things you didn't know about OIL SHALE
Denver Post ^ | 07/23/2008 | Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah

Posted on 07/24/2008 7:00:09 AM PDT by rface

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1 posted on 07/24/2008 7:03:14 AM PDT by rface
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To: rface

Good stuff.


2 posted on 07/24/2008 7:13:12 AM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: rface

A few oil shale refineries would send the OPEC mafia scrambling to reduce prices.


3 posted on 07/24/2008 7:14:02 AM PDT by pallis
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Bump


4 posted on 07/24/2008 7:15:39 AM PDT by Uncledave (Zombie Reagan '08)
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To: rface

does the oil have to be extracted or can the rock also be burned like coal?


5 posted on 07/24/2008 7:21:41 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: rface

Bump.


6 posted on 07/24/2008 7:21:48 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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When are some prominent Republicans going to stand up and say WHY the Democrats are blocking oil production? It is not enough just to say they are.

Oh, I forgot, Republicans don’t have the stones to publicly call Democrats socialists. They might be called mean spirited.....instead of just stoopid.


7 posted on 07/24/2008 7:22:58 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: rface
Folks pay big bucks to have their articles published in Science magazine.

Not that means they are open to agenda driven propaganda but, in fact, they are.

Science is not all that good a reference unless you have some other article of comparable nature available in a different peer reviewed journal.

End of story.

8 posted on 07/24/2008 7:25:41 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: edzo4

To use it for transportation fuel, we need to extract the liquid petroleum.


9 posted on 07/24/2008 7:26:25 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rface
The action produces no additional rights for Colorado, but destroys Utah's right to move forward at any pace.

I've supported Colorado's right to choose its own pace. Utah deserves the same courtesy.

Just what Alaska has faced for decades.

10 posted on 07/24/2008 7:27:32 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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what about electric power plants?


11 posted on 07/24/2008 7:27:37 AM PDT by rface
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One of many great ideas.

Last week at a local political event one speaker asked the audience: How many nuclear power plants had been built in America over the last 30 years? Many answered 0, 1, 2, etc. He stated over two hundred and then talked about how our navel fleet has been built around nuke power and that should tell us it is safe and reliable and that we need to move forward with nuclear generation facilities. I agree


12 posted on 07/24/2008 7:30:38 AM PDT by PORD (People...Of Right Do)
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I would say the ability to use it for liquid fuel makes it too valuable to use in a power plant when we already have large resources of coal.

For comparision, but note this is several years old. Petroleum has risen even more compared to the others.

Source:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/archive/aeo07/overview.html

13 posted on 07/24/2008 7:33:29 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: edzo4

The oil is cooked out of the rock with heat. In one method above ground, in the other below ground, in the first there is a lot of rock to dispose of, while in the second this is, of course, not a issue. So no the rock is not like coal.


14 posted on 07/24/2008 7:34:41 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: TheZMan; rface
GOODY :D...great read.
15 posted on 07/24/2008 7:38:12 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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bump


16 posted on 07/24/2008 7:40:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: rface

read later


17 posted on 07/24/2008 7:40:23 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: count-your-change
I am pretty sure you can just grind up oil shale and use it like coal to power turbines, i have seen pieces of the rock lit on fire and burned

this is from wikipedia (so it may be true)

Oil shale is a fine-grained sedimentary rock, containing significant amounts of kerogen (a solid mixture of organic chemical compounds), from which liquid hydrocarbons can be manufactured. The name oil shale is something of a misnomer as the rock is not necessarily a shale and the hydrocarbon in it is not truly oil. Deposits of oil shale are located around the world, including major deposits in the United States. Global deposits are estimated as equivalent to 2.9–3.3 trillion (2.9–3.3 x 1012) barrels of recoverable oil.

The kerogen in oil shale can be converted to synthetic crude oil through the chemical process of pyrolysis. When heated to a sufficiently high temperature a vapor is driven off which can be distilled (retorted) to yield a petroleum-like shale oil—a form of non-conventional oil—and combustible shale gas (shale gas can also refer to gas occurring naturally in shales). Oil shale can also be burnt directly as a low-grade fuel for power generation and heating purposes, and be used as a raw material in the chemical and construction materials industries.

it also says 90% of elctricity in Estonia is produced by burning oil shale

18 posted on 07/24/2008 7:51:14 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: rface
Did you know oil shale has a smaller carbon footprint than ethanol?

We really need to get over this silly carbon footprint thing. Let's call it the "Plant Food Quotient".

19 posted on 07/24/2008 7:51:19 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: thackney

Nuclear for electricity as the exclusive energy source for electricity . That fees up oil shale, coal to oil , natural gas etc for cars.

Coal for coal to oil liquefaction.

Oil Shale only for petroleum.

Natural gas for cars.

etc.


20 posted on 07/24/2008 8:00:46 AM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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