Counsel: Confident (Chicago) Gun Ban Will Hold

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[Shooter 2.5]

Murder, rape and kidnapping must be legal on Federal property then.

No wonder D.C. has such a problem.

[Luke21]

“She may have a point. When was the last time Chicago was a part of America?”

It’s a dreadful place.

[ohioarmedneutrality]

I suppose if Chicago would like to secede from Illinois and/or from the Union, then the Heller decision wouldn’t apply. Let’s face it, the rest of the state of Illinois would probably welcome such a move. Maybe DC, SF, NY and LA can leave also. No big loss.

[facedown]

When was the last time Chicago was a part of America?

Just after New York was.

[El Gato]

City Corporation Counsel Mara Georges has told two City Council committees she’s confident Chicago’s law will stand.

What else would she say? Anything else and like Stalin, Hizzhonor Da Mayar would find someone with who did not exhibit such an "insufficient degree of optimism". (That phrase was actually used by a project manager to my first mentor, who "fired" him from the project. In the end, the mentor was proved correct.)

[longtermmemmory]

Here is the new philosophy by city attorneys: (most of whom are generally incompetent lawyers to start off with. They are political appointees who could not get a job in the real world or are just using the post to further their own political careers)

“Its all legal untill a judge says otherwise”

IOW city attorneys hold to the notion that they do NOT have to look at the constitution (state or federal) or the law untill someone says they can do it. Untill then the city generates history where they can say “see the law is working”. It is akin to the illegal adoption cases where an illegal adopting parent says “we had the kidnapped child so long we get to keep them.”

Instead of working to fix the law (less expensive more popular option), they instead work to presearve the unconstitutional law.

Obviously this lawyer had flunked consitutional law and the whole series of case law that had the bill of rights apply to the states. By her argument slavery is still legal as a state issue.

[Condor51]

What this Daley lackey is saying in effect is the U.S. Constitution doesn't apply to 'cities'. Know I know Daley thinks he's King but this is 'commit him to a rubber-room stat' stuff.

And IMHO Chicago's 36 pages of gun laws in size 2 font goes a tad beyond any sane person's definition of 'reasonable restriction'.

[NY.SS-Bar9]

Exactly.

If the gun grabbers were not so short-sighted, they would cede ground to avoid court decisions that could be devastating to their position.

Heller was the result of D.C.'s recalcitrance and Chicago will force the issue on incorporation.

[School of Rational Thought]

I hate Chicago Nazis

[KeyLargo]

www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-zorn-24-jul24,0,6357125.column

chicagotribune.com

Hard to find good reason to buy back guns

Eric Zorn

July 24, 2008

Here are six reasons I’m wary of gun buybacks, such as the one scheduled for Saturday in Chicago in which those who turn in firearms at any of 25 locations get a $100 prepaid credit card per gun, no questions asked.

1. I can’t imagine criminals disarming themselves for a lousy $100.

Sure, they might dump their excess, scrap or stolen piece for the bounty. But if having a gun is integral to their criminal activities, it’s absurd to think a buyback would inspire them to give up the tools of their trade.

2. I don’t see the economic sense of offering law-abiding people a flat fee for their guns.

If you own a firearm worth more than $100, as most firearms are, the only reason to take less for it is if you have no use for it. In that case, your gun is probably not contributing to the gun violence these programs are supposed to address.

3. I worry about buyback programs subsidizing crime and weapons traffic.

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[Texas Federalist]

Where did Mara Georges go to law school? Since when can a local government pass a law that trumps the federal constitution? What an idiot.

Constitutional law isn't even a requirement at many law schools, including Harvard. Seriously.

[steve-b]

The record of original intent by the drafters of the Fourteenth Amendment makes it clear that it was intended to strike down state and local laws (the "Black Codes") that attempted to infringe the basic citizenship rights stated in the Bill of Rights. Laws to disarm the freedmen* were specifically listed as one of the things that would be abolished by the amendment.

*Hey, you ever try to get blood stains out of white sheets?

[steve-b]

Yep. I hope these jackasses keep flipping the finger to the courts — it’ll probably result in stronger anti-gun-control rulings than would otherwise be the case.

[steve-b]

City Corporation Counsel Mara Georges has told two City Council committees she's confident Chicago's [gun ban] law will stand.

I am confident that our glorious defenders will stand!

[JackOfVA]

Indeed, and I’m hopeful that how the decision comes down, but if B. Hussein Obama gets a couple of Supreme Court picks all bets are off.

Jack

[NY.SS-Bar9]

You missed the one reason a criminal would turn in his gun - to dispose of a “hot” weapon that they had already used.