Counsel: Confident (Chicago) Gun Ban Will Hold

WBBM Radio ^ | 7.24.08 | WBBM Radio

[IncPen]

CHICAGO (WBBM) -- Chicago’s gun laws have been challenged in federal court since the Supreme Court’s decision on the D.C. ban. But, City Corporation Counsel Mara Georges has told two City Council committees she’s confident Chicago’s law will stand.

Georges tells Aldermen the Supreme Court’s decision on Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban shouldn’t apply to Chicago, because previous Supreme Court rulings have said Second Amendment "right to bear arms" doesn’t apply to local governments, like Cities. She says D.C. is a federal jurisdiction.

And Georges is confident that, and other arguments, will prevail, at least in the lower courts. But, she admits, it’s hard to predict what the current Supreme Court will do. Still, it could be years before we find out.

The executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association is reacting to Georges' comments. Richard Pearson says they'll be pressing forward with their federal lawsuit against Chicago's ban and he says it will be up to the court to decide. He says there has been about 78 Supreme Court rulings on the subject, and if they have to go all the way to the Supreme Court to overturn Chicago's ban, that's what they'll do.

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[IncPen]

Mara Georges fronting for Richard Daley and the Chicago Gun Grabbers.

Willful ignorance of the Constitution is no excuse, Mara.

[IncPen]

Daley Says no to Heller.

[the invisib1e hand]

gun ban will follow obama. get ‘em while you can.

[Parley Baer]

“Georges tells Aldermen the Supreme Court’s decision on Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban shouldn’t apply to Chicago, because previous Supreme Court rulings have said Second Amendment “right to bear arms” doesn’t apply to local governments, like Cities. She says D.C. is a federal jurisdiction.”

This is just so ignorant on so many fronts. I'm just amazed at the stupidity of your average dimocRAT. These people are just as dangerous as Al Queda.

[savedbygrace]

She’s self deluded.

[CyberSpartacus]

A prince who arms his people trusts his people. If he disarms them then he fears his people.

Machiavelli

[IncPen]

We’ll find out in court, Counselor Georges. We’ll find out in court.

I wonder if a civil rights lawsuit against her and Daley would be useful.

[djsherin]

Counsel: Confident (Chicago) Gun Ban Will Continue to Kill More Citizens

[Astronaut]

Where did Mara Georges go to law school? Since when can a local government pass a law that trumps the federal constitution? What an idiot.

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

Amazing arrogance on the part of the fascist Chicago gun grabbers.

The Constitution applies to ALL of America, including the major cities.

[arthurus]

And when it doesn’t hold the city will change two words for close synonyms, call it Revamped and noisily “pass” it to start the process all over again. A new office is created for the lawyers who have to be hired to defend the city’s gun law in court and taxes will have to go up to pay for it.

[lowbridge]

Georges tells Aldermen the Supreme Court’s decision on Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban shouldn’t apply to Chicago, because previous Supreme Court rulings have said Second Amendment "right to bear arms" doesn’t apply to local governments, like Cities. She says D.C. is a federal jurisdiction.

She may have a point. When was the last time Chicago was a part of America?

[SJackson]

What he means by "hold", they'll enforce it as a form of government sanctioned terror, and if he wanders through the courts long enough, maybe Barack Hussein Obama will have appointed a Justice or two, and Heller will be overturned. In the meantime, the Law of the Land is the Law of the Land, exclusive of Chicago.

Of course all this litigation costs nothing, the cost being borne by taxpayers who need not be considered.

[SJackson]

Where did Mara Georges go to law school? Since when can a local government pass a law that trumps the federal constitution? What an idiot.

Politicians from Chicago can do that, at least they act as though they can. And it takes years, sometimes decades to undo the damage.

Another reason to vote against the Chicago machine candidate currently touring Germany.

[pgkdan]

have said Second Amendment "right to bear arms" doesn’t apply to local governments, like Cities.

Is this woman a retard>

[Malsua]

Supreme Court rulings have said Second Amendment "right to bear arms" doesn’t apply to local governments, like Cities.

In other words, she's saying the constitution doesn't apply in cities.

[JackOfVA]

The Second Amendment, like most of the other Bill of Rights was intended to limit the reach of the Federal Government. The First Amendment, for example, explicitly says that “Congress shall make no law...”

Over the last 100 years, the Supreme Court has said that certain of the restrictions on the Federal Government set forth in the Bill of Rights apply to the states, via the 14th Amendment, which is said to “incorporate” certain of the Bill of Right restrictions on the states.

One example - although the First Amendment says that Congress shall not establish a religion, it was understood that this did not apply to the states and until the early 1800’s some states had established religions.

The District of Columbia is a Federal jurisdiction, over which Congress exercises all power, although some functions have been delegated to the elected DC government in recent years. There’s no question, therefore, that the restrictions of the Bill of Rights apply to DC. No need to decide whether the 14th Amendment requires incorporating the 2nd Amendment.

Heller is silent on whether the 2nd Amendment should be incorporated via the 14th amendment—and hence binding on the states. My belief is that the 2nd Amendment establishes an essential right and hence its restrictions should apply to the states, but that was not before the Supreme Court in the Heller case and has not yet been decided.

I don’t believe the argument that the 2nd Amendment does not explicitly state that it applies only to Congress and the Federal Government and hence it must be understood as applying to both the states and Federal government, is going to be accepted.

Jack

[Braak]

Yeah, good luck with that Mara...something tells me the twin anvils of reality and the Bill of Rights are going to provide an entertaining clue by four for the collection of idiots running Chi-Town.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Georges tells Aldermen the Supreme Court’s decision on Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban shouldn’t apply to Chicago, because previous Supreme Court rulings have said Second Amendment "right to bear arms" doesn’t apply to local governments, like Cities.

So which Supreme Court rulings would those be, counselor?

And under your line of reasoning, the rest of the Bill Of Rights don't apply to local governments either, despite years of SCOTUS incorporation.

What an ignoramus!