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Hey Buddy, wanna buy a bag (plastic bag ban)
http://www.desertvalleystar.com/desert_hot_springs_plastic_bags_07-24-08.html | July 24, 2008 | Wiley Smith

Posted on 07/24/2008 10:25:11 PM PDT by BJungNan

By Wiley Smith; July 24, 2008

Just saw that Los Angeles banned plastic bags and will charge 25 cents for each paper bag the store supplies to customers.

Three percent of the bag fee will be returned to the retailer (0.045 cents), 3 percent (0.045 cents) will go to the state, and the rest (0.16 cents) will go back to the city to fund an education campaign.

Of course, some enterprising individuals likely will be selling the bags for less, buying them at a landed cost of 0.05 cents and doubling their money for a sell price of 0.10 cents a bag - and they will still be under the store mandated sell price of 0.25 cents per bag.

Get your bags here and save! Bags! Bags! Get your bags here!

That is if the vendor wants to sell only paper bags. If that same vendor also sells plastic bags, then he can really make out good. In usual form, government is about to create a cottage industry, and underground market in bags – except it will be above ground because the ordinance does not make it illegal to sell bags.

Except

http://www.desertvalleystar.com/desert_hot_springs_plastic_bags_07-24-08.html


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bagban; environment; losangeles; plastic

1 posted on 07/24/2008 10:25:12 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

Didn’t they force plastic bags on us for the “ecology” after Jimmy Carter’s gas shortage?

Doesn’t anyone remember that?


2 posted on 07/24/2008 10:34:48 PM PDT by donna (The Latino community holds the election in its hands. -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: donna

I remember Carter. Actually, he gave us so much to remember I don’t remember that. I do remember learning that paper bags took trees, that paper in a land fill, buried in dirt, did not decompose, that you could read a buried newspaper 50 years later.

I think the idea here is to get everyone to carry their own bags to the store but the part about favoring paper over plastic is the perplexing part.


3 posted on 07/24/2008 10:39:46 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

I really have no problem with this. I’ve got two plastic bags stuck in trees in my front yard. They’ve been there for six months. I’ll never get them down, I’ll have to wait. I started bagging my groceries in a cardboard box I get at work. It saves time and when I delivered my mom’s groceries in a box, she exclaimed, “Just like the old days in New York!”


4 posted on 07/24/2008 10:47:12 PM PDT by Austein
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To: donna
Doesn’t anyone remember that?

Yep!

Then, the greenies were buying their cloth bags from I THINK Whole Foods. Come to find that some of them had lead in them.

It must be REALLY DIFFICULT to be a liberal...there's a boogie man around every corner.....

5 posted on 07/24/2008 10:50:10 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Typical Whitey Gramma just like Obamies!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
It must be REALLY DIFFICULT to be a liberal...there's a boogie man around every corner.....

Hey, what boogie man? Where did you see him? You sure? Oh wait, I'm not a liberal.

The part about the plastic bags being in trees is a good point. Paper bags would not have been stuck there for six months. Have to give on that point.

6 posted on 07/24/2008 10:55:13 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

I went to 3 stores today and accumulated about 30 plastic bags to add to the million I already have.


7 posted on 07/24/2008 10:58:51 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: BJungNan

I live in L.A. and we have the most idiotic and racist Hispanic city council members, probably second only to San Fran and Newark. I’m looking forward to hoarding paper bags for future sale in 2 years, why not? Probably sell them to some illegal on Sta Monica Blvd for 20C, they wouldn;t even know the difference.


8 posted on 07/24/2008 11:02:02 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Austein
I really have no problem with this. I’ve got two plastic bags stuck in trees in my front yard. They’ve been there for six months. I’ll never get them down,

I have one in a tree in the back yard. It flaps in the wind and the dogs bark at it. Drives me nuts. It is too high for me to reach it, even with a ladder. I am hoping it will disintegrate in the summer sun...except that it is in the shade most of the time.

I don't know that they should be banned, but they are annoying. I reuse some and recycle some, but it seems like they multiply under the sink. I haven't caught them in the act, but I know what they are doing down there...
9 posted on 07/24/2008 11:11:34 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: BJungNan

Just put a recycle value on them and the homeless will have a whole new line of work, for cash.


10 posted on 07/24/2008 11:19:04 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: BJungNan
Do not pay for bags!

When you go to the grocery store, just tell the bag boy to put everything back in your cart and then have him walk out and put it in the trunk of your car. Leave some boxes in the trunk of your car.

If everyone in LA does this, then the law will be overturned faster than you can say "Do you need some help out?"

11 posted on 07/24/2008 11:22:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: BJungNan

Nice stealth tax using enviro-nazism. I expect this will migrate countrywide when the revenue potentials are seen by other city governments.


12 posted on 07/24/2008 11:40:40 PM PDT by SoDak (Anything but obama)
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To: goldfinch; Austein; BJungNan; sionnsar; Monkey Face; Tax-chick; rottndog; ThomasThomas

Any love you have for plastic grocery bags will vanish the DAY you’re driving down the road, and you get one stuck on a flange bolt on your car’s catalytic converter. Your preference for plastic bags will evaporate just as quickly as the stench of melted polycarbonate fills your car.

The plastic hits the hot metal, and it just melts right on there, and that car’s gonna smell like burnt plastic from that moment until the last molecule of it bakes off three thousand or more miles later.

And I don’t care if it turns out to be 2,500 miles; I guarantee it’ll seem like 25,000. I mean you’ll be begging your insurance agent to have the car TOTALED before it’s all over. But they won’t go for that because the junkyard won’t buy a used car with plastic baked onto the exhaust.

So, there you are, out in traffic just stinkin’ up the whole world, and people are lookin’ at you sideways, and rollin’ up their windows at you.

You’re an automotive LEPER!

And the only reason you don’t have to drive around with your head out the window shouting “UNCLEAN!!! UNCLEAN!!!” is that everyone can SMELL you comin’.

So, your buddy from the office pokes his head into your cubicle and says, “Hey, I’m havin’ a big barbecue and pool party at my place this Saturday afternoon. Can you and the family make it?”

“Oh, yeah, I think we’ve got something in the morning, but the afternoon’s clear. We’ll be there. Should I bring anything? Meat? Side dish?”

“Nah, I’ve got the whole menu taken care of. Just do me one favor: park three or four houses down the block. I wouldn’t want the smell from your car to mingle with the beef ribs on the grill.”

“Uuuhhggg.”

And if it was your WIFE’S car??

Oh, man, if it was your wife’s car I’ve got news for you: it’s YOUR car now; she’s goin’ down and get a NEW one that DOESN’T stink. And don’t think she’s gonna let you park your Stinkmobile in HER garage with HER car. Uh-uh. YOU park at the CURB!

On the NEXT block over.

After all that mess, pity the fool who asks you, “Paper or plastic?”


13 posted on 07/25/2008 12:43:12 AM PDT by HKMk23
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To: HKMk23

ROFL!!!

I feel your pain!


14 posted on 07/25/2008 12:45:55 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Glad you liked that.

Just like the stories in the newspaper: it’s all true, but the facts have been changed to protect the guilty.

;-)


15 posted on 07/25/2008 12:50:54 AM PDT by HKMk23
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To: HKMk23

I’m still laughin! :-)


16 posted on 07/25/2008 1:07:43 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: BJungNan
Which politician's pocket does the extra 24.75 cents go?
17 posted on 07/25/2008 1:20:02 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto!)
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To: P-Marlowe
Do not pay for bags!

When you go to the grocery store, just tell the bag boy to put everything back in your cart and then have him walk out and put it in the trunk of your car. Leave some boxes in the trunk of your car.

If everyone in LA does this, then the law will be overturned faster than you can say "Do you need some help out?"

Brilliant idea...

18 posted on 07/25/2008 1:27:27 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: goldfinch
I don't know that they should be banned, but they are annoying. I reuse some and recycle some, but it seems like they multiply under the sink. I haven't caught them in the act, but I know what they are doing down there...

I would have never expected the kind of responses we are getting here. This one is really funny and the narrative in the other post is pretty entertaining too.

19 posted on 07/25/2008 1:31:31 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: goldfinch

they multiply under the sink. I haven’t caught them in the act, but I know what they are doing down there...

LOL mine are doing the same thing every once in a while I thin them out(genocide) and burn them in my burn barrel I hate plastic bags I always ask for paper.but the wife will take anything they give her.


20 posted on 07/25/2008 3:10:33 AM PDT by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I prefer to fill a cart or two and when they say I have to pay for the bags I would say I don't think so and leave everything and walk out.
21 posted on 07/25/2008 3:13:11 AM PDT by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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To: smoketree

Here in Virginia, the Food Lion stores have a plastic bag recycling bin in front of the stores where you can dispose of your used plastic shopping bags.

Now if I could just remember to take the darn things with me when I go shopping.


22 posted on 07/25/2008 3:42:16 AM PDT by fredhead (4-cylinder, air cooled, horizontally opposed......THE REAL VW!!!)
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To: BJungNan
the idea here is to get everyone to carry their own bags to the store

You're right. Of course, what happens when I find a huge sale on my favorite foods and can't buy as much as I want because I didn't bring enough bags? Or get to the store and find I forgot to bring my bag(s)? Liberals are so much smarter than the rest of us, both the shoppers and the grocers.

23 posted on 07/25/2008 4:02:41 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: donna

I remember. We were not supposed to use paper because we would kill a tree. This is just another manufactured crisis, the government can’t help you if there isn’t something wrong, so there must always be something to scream about. We need to get rid of the frickin’ left and the sooner the better.


24 posted on 07/25/2008 6:16:59 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Austein

The problem, and the part that should bother you is not the fact they(the left)are against plastic bags, The problem is that they(the left)were the ones who forced plastic on us in the first place. For quite some time, in CA at least, you couldn’t even get a paper bag, you had to take plastic. Now, they have reversed themselves and act as if somehow the VRWC are the ones who mandated plastic bags when in reality it was the same a**hats who now say we must use paper. Personally I prefer paper, but I remember and despise the frickin’ left and their half a**ed ideas.


25 posted on 07/25/2008 6:21:57 AM PDT by calex59
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To: BJungNan

I remember the slogan...Kill a tree ... or choke a fish. Paper or plastic. Ye Gods!


26 posted on 07/25/2008 6:41:12 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: fredhead

Here in Texas, the HEB stores also have a bin out front to recycle the plastic bags.

I have 2 reusable bags..they stay in my car, and go in the store with me every time, because I also sometimes end up buying more than I intend.

I also make a point to get a couple of plastic bags every week....handy for cleaning up the cat’s litter box.

Environmental arguments aside, it is a relief to me not to have that pile of paper OR plastic bags cluttering up the house anymore.

Don’t blame the grocery stores for this...their interest is making the customer happy, not saving the world. I can see this lovely law resulting in a lot of customers screaming at an $8-an-hour cashier who had nothing to do with the new policy.


27 posted on 07/25/2008 7:03:00 AM PDT by CarolTX (Onward through the fog)
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To: Austein
I really have no problem with this. I’ve got two plastic bags stuck in trees in my front yard. They’ve been there for six months. I’ll never get them down, I’ll have to wait. I started bagging my groceries in a cardboard box I get at work. It saves time and when I delivered my mom’s groceries in a box, she exclaimed, “Just like the old days in New York!”

Is it all about you then ?

Because it seems to me that, no matter what my, or your, personal perferences on the matter are, that this is a gross taking of personal liberty by the LA City Council, who has no constitutional, or other, right to dictate to private businesses

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28 posted on 07/25/2008 7:06:30 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: calex59

manufactured crises are helpful not only to increase the acceptability of more fascism,

but also to make the individual narcissistic liberal feel good about himself.


29 posted on 07/25/2008 7:10:20 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: fredhead

Who cares if they get recycled or put back into a landfill and don’t break down for 1000 years.
Nobody is going to be digging up landfills to see anyway so they just stay underground.


30 posted on 07/25/2008 8:22:13 AM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

So there is this big push for using cloth bags. People need to be aware when buying meat products, I mean having juices leak from packaged meats. Frequent washing is advised. I have a master plan to corner the market........cloth bag plastic liners!


31 posted on 07/25/2008 9:03:52 AM PDT by freebird5850
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To: Austein

The problem there isn’t the bag, it’s people who didn’t properly dispose of them. Liter is liter, paper or plastic it’s still the result of lazy people.

I like plastic bags, because of their flexibility I can carry 6 or 7 bags of stuff in one hand, kind of tough on the fingers but it gets me inside quick. Really we should leave it up to the market. And don’t tell LA about boxes, they’ll start making stores charge for those too.


32 posted on 07/25/2008 9:10:27 AM PDT by boogerbear
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To: BJungNan

And when this legislation starts to put plastic bag manufacturers out of business and thousands of people out of work it will be Bush’s fault for the upswing in unemployment rates!


33 posted on 07/25/2008 9:37:55 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Hardastarboard
Of course, what happens when I find a huge sale on my favorite foods and can't buy as much as I want because I didn't bring enough bags?

The article said when that happens you just go out to a vendor on the street that will sell you more bags at a lower price than the price the store is mandated to sell them at.

34 posted on 07/25/2008 10:55:22 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: boogerbear
The problem there isn’t the bag, it’s people who didn’t properly dispose of them. Liter is liter, paper or plastic it’s still the result of lazy people.

That is it exactly.

35 posted on 07/25/2008 10:56:15 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

Sounds good to me. I really hate those bags.


36 posted on 07/25/2008 2:25:55 PM PDT by mel
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To: HKMk23

BWA-HA-HA-HAHAHAHA!

I don’t like paper because cockroaches like to hide in the creases, and I don’t like plastic because it’s too flimsy.

I buy the fabric bags, but not because I’m going “green;” it’s a softer, quieter way to bring in the groceries. Besides: When not occupied with groceries, those fabric bags are handy for LOTS of things!!!


37 posted on 07/25/2008 4:12:47 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.)
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