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FairTax Training Seminar
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Posted on 07/26/2008 5:10:39 PM PDT by Man50D

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To: Mojave
What's the difference?

If you don't know how in the world did you figure out how to operate your computer?

21 posted on 07/27/2008 9:50:29 AM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: groanup

I knew you couldn’t answer.


22 posted on 07/27/2008 9:51:18 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: FBD
it’s very curious that some people, supposedly conservative free thinkers who normally welcome intelligent debate, would feel the constant need to jump in on every Fairtax thread and post troll-like comments

I too am perplexed why these people are on a conservative forum but, you have to remember, the FairTax would not only eliminate an albatross around every person with earned income, it would also eliminate a lot of bloodsuckers from the employment rolls.

Some people don't want to have to find a real job.

23 posted on 07/27/2008 9:54:03 AM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: Mojave
I knew you couldn’t answer.

A dumb question that deserves no answer (although it has been answered many, many times. Do you understand?). You aren't here to debate, you're here to insult and disrupt.

24 posted on 07/27/2008 9:56:32 AM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: groanup
the FairTax would not only eliminate an albatross around every person with earned income

By providing them with a monthly federal welfare check. Everybody gets a free lunch.

25 posted on 07/27/2008 9:57:21 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: groanup
Old Communist Manifesto:
To each according to their needs.

New Communist Manifesto (Prebate):
To each according to their needs.

26 posted on 07/27/2008 10:00:02 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
New Communist Manifesto (Prebate): To each according to their needs.

Mojave's definition of income redistribution:

Tax refund.

27 posted on 07/27/2008 10:31:12 AM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: groanup
Tax refund.

It's not a refund. The welfare payment goes out no matter how little or how much tax was paid by the recipient.

How many times have you been caught now? Couple of thousand maybe?

28 posted on 07/27/2008 10:34:35 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

It’s a refund. It is also the only thing you can key on to berate the FairTax. When the FairTax is being written up in the final process I suggest you write your congressman and protest the prebate. It would be fine with me if it is eliminated.


29 posted on 07/27/2008 10:37:37 AM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: groanup
It’s a refund.

In advance. Even of taxes never paid.

Orwell predicted you.

30 posted on 07/27/2008 10:42:06 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
In advance. Even of taxes never paid.

So you'd rather loan money to the government instead of vice versa.

Orwell predicted you.

Ayn Rand predicted you.

31 posted on 07/27/2008 11:49:45 AM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: groanup
So you'd rather loan money to the government instead of vice versa.

So now the "prebate" is a governemnt loan that you never have to repay. Obama could take flip-flopping lessons from the Fair Taxers.

32 posted on 07/27/2008 11:55:58 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
So now the "prebate" is a governemnt loan that you never have to repay.

You can't read.

33 posted on 07/27/2008 11:59:01 AM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: groanup
So you'd rather loan money to the government instead of vice versa.

Loan me a free lunch, please.

34 posted on 07/27/2008 12:00:05 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Man50D
I've never seen the amount of disruption on any threads here that I've seen on the FairTax threads. Seems like people have some territory to defend, otherwise if they didn't care they'd be on a thread they do care about...

Either that or out playing golf, but no, the most important thing for them to do is to disrupt the FairTax threads. As you observed, they don't offer any alternative either, (like Steve Forbes' flat tax, for example) which does also tell us something about them, doesn't it?

35 posted on 07/27/2008 12:38:21 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: FBD

Thank you. Thanks for #16, too.


36 posted on 07/27/2008 12:40:19 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Mojave
Loan me a free lunch, please.

Nah.

I don't think you'll be able to pay it back. You're too hung up on paying the King first.

37 posted on 07/27/2008 12:51:09 PM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: groanup
I don't think you'll be able to pay it back.

Just like the prebate works.

38 posted on 07/27/2008 12:55:43 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: OKSooner
I've never seen the amount of disruption on any threads here that I've seen on the FairTax threads

Do you blame them? Their livelihoods are at stake. Or so they think.

Anybody here work for a mutual fund company? Take Fidelity for example. It must have hundreds of millions of dollars of new money coming in to its funds every month from 401(k) contributions alone. A 401(k) is a complicated tax sheltered vehicle that would not be necessary under the FairTax.

There are hundreds of other jobs at risk.

Life insurance (tax deferred growth of cash value)

Annuities (tax deferred growth)

Tax shelters ( real estate, oil and gas have a lot of tax advantages)

Third party administrators (those who do the accounting for tax deferred retirement plans)

The usual suspects: CPA's, tax auditors, corporate tax dept's, tax lawyers, etc.

IRA peddlers.

The list goes on.

I don't blame them for defending their careers. I'm here to set the record straight.

39 posted on 07/27/2008 1:03:56 PM PDT by groanup (Here, bend over and let me give you my carbon footprint.)
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To: groanup
A 401(k) is a complicated tax sheltered vehicle that would not be necessary under the FairTax.

People will no longer need to save for retirement thanks to the monthly "prebate" check they'll get. Step right up and buy some genuine Fair Tax snake oil to wash down your free lunch with.

40 posted on 07/27/2008 1:10:03 PM PDT by Mojave
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