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Neighbors: Accused shooter everyone's friend, questioned Christianity
Knoxnews ^ | 7/27/08 | J.J. Stambaugh

Posted on 07/27/2008 8:19:51 PM PDT by LdSentinal

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To: Soliton
"As I understand it, if you kill a Christian, you are doing them a favor?"

Boy, are you ever funny.

41 posted on 07/27/2008 9:24:32 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DeLaine

Good thing they caught him before he went and shot up his dentist.


42 posted on 07/27/2008 9:26:10 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
"Unitarian Universalists include people who identify as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists, and others.

Uh, no it doesn't. Except maybe for curious atheists, humanists, and agnostics.

43 posted on 07/27/2008 9:27:38 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: LdSentinal

Don’t they teach paragraphs in journalism school anymore?

I’d swear an 8th grader wrote this.


44 posted on 07/27/2008 9:28:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Candor7
"No one deserved to die in that church as they freely worshipped,"

They were watching a play. I really don't know who or what they would worship. So maybe it should be, "No one deserved to die in that Unitarian community building as they freely gathered,"

45 posted on 07/27/2008 9:35:02 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DocH

Ummm... OK. I was merely posting what our LOCAL UU Congregation is like. The pastor of that particular congregation happens to be a former Christian pastor.

As you can see from the UU’s own website, there are a variety of congregations within the same “umbrella” term. Perhaps my local UU congregation is more “religious” minded than the average.

Are they liberals? Yes, definitely! (Perhaps a mixture of liberals and libertarians, from the little I know.) Would I personally feel comfortable attending services there? Definitely not.

However, I would definitely take the word of my friend over someone on the internet telling me what my friend and his community believes.

So, you are free to believe it’s a bunch of B.S. if you like - that doesn’t make you right, and it doesn’t make my friend, nor I a liar.


46 posted on 07/27/2008 9:35:07 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (LR's BLOG: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Actually, it DOES. I know one personally who self-identifies as a Christian, who professes a belief in Christ as his personal savior, and could quote scripture with the best of the “regular” Christians. (The pastor of our local UU Church is a former Christian pastor, so maybe that’s why it’s a bit different than the average UU Congregation?)

I’m not interested in defending the religion as a whole, nor the individuals within the religion... However, I find it very curious that people who do not belong to the denomination are so insistent on disagreeing with what those who DO belong are saying themselves (on their organization’s website, and at other websites, and what some of us have personally heard from members themselves).

It reminds me of liberals who accuse all Christians of being close-minded, racists, bigots, and such. Let’s not stoop to that level, shall we? We should be praying for these people no matter what they have chosen spiritually. Perhaps going through something like this might bring some of them around??? That’s what we should be praying for, and not sitting here posting things which malign the members. Especially in the light of the tragedy they suffered this morning. That is CHRIST’S commandment to us... To LOVE our neighbors (and our ‘enemies’).


47 posted on 07/27/2008 9:42:57 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (LR's BLOG: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: LdSentinal

Does anyone have a photo of the perp?? Maybe I missed it somewhere.


48 posted on 07/27/2008 9:44:38 PM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Global2010

In America it dates to the late 1700s, but it does share some characteristics of New Age thought.


49 posted on 07/27/2008 9:45:50 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: DocH

I think the gunman was trying to give them oneness with a bullet, after all , it wasnt the gunman’s fault,the gun’s fault or the bullets fault, it was just a vehicle for which they could obtain oneness with lol


50 posted on 07/27/2008 9:54:36 PM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophogus)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Oh come on. It was a Sunday morning and the kids were showing their stuff.

Holier than thou in the face of murder in a church on a Sunday morning is not only unbecoming, it shows a thought process of Orthodoxy with which we are astutely familiar,from places like Iran and Pakistan.

Enough already.

End of conversation

51 posted on 07/27/2008 9:55:58 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: FreedomPoster

His middle name is probably DeWayne.


52 posted on 07/27/2008 9:57:58 PM PDT by Moonmad27 (Simplify, simplify, simplify. H.D. Thoreau)
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To: brushcop

You can see a photo right here:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/human-shield-saved-us/2008/07/28/1217097089356.html


53 posted on 07/27/2008 10:12:55 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Morgana
Who wants to be the first to give a Religion 101 on the Unitarian Universalist Church?

They do

Beliefs Within Our Faith

Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion that encompasses many faith traditions. Unitarian Universalists include people who identify as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists, and others. As there is no official Unitarian Universalist creed, Unitarian Universalists are free to search for truth on many paths.

To quote the Rev. Marta Flanagan, "We uphold the free search for truth. We will not be bound by a statement of belief. We do not ask anyone to subscribe to a creed. We say ours is a non-creedal religion. Ours is a free faith."

Although we uphold shared principles, individual Unitarian Universalists have varied beliefs about everything from scripture to rituals to God.

54 posted on 07/27/2008 10:16:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: I still care

Yes, it’s strange that they didn’t point out the fact that the church he shot up certainly wasn’t Christian. They probably didn’t know it themselves!


55 posted on 07/27/2008 10:17:21 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: El Gato
At least they were in some kind of church on Sunday morning. 11amCST Sunday,27JUL08, I opened my first beer of the day. Beer is STILL on the menu for breakfast.

/johnny

56 posted on 07/27/2008 10:20:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Why then did he choose that "church"? They aren't Christians.

Two people are now dead; six more wounded; and a community is in shock. Is it really necessary to condemn the beliefs of those who lost their lives and their survivors? There is a time and a place for discussion of theology...but this is not it.

57 posted on 07/27/2008 10:25:58 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Nice explanation of “Unitarian Universalists”, but why would a Christian (one who has accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior) want to turn from the teaching of God and waste time with a sect that spent no time in the teachings and worship of the God of the Bible?

Remember John 14:6 “I am the way, the truth and the life; no man comes to the Father but by Me”. True Christians accept that statement as fact, so why would they be unequally yoked (in a church setting, in this case) with such non-believers? The Bible is clear that we are not to do so.


58 posted on 07/27/2008 10:27:23 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: LdSentinal

The same old crap you always here when someone goes off the deep end. “He was a nice guy, he was quiet, he kept to himself, he helped people”. What this proves is that people don’t really know other people. Keeping to yourself and being a loner is frequently not a good sign of a persons mental health. As for the “religion made him a killer” theme being used here by the DBM we can take that with a grain of salt can’t we? They never use that with Islam though do they, only with Christians?


59 posted on 07/27/2008 10:28:07 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Liberty2007
Too bad this character didn't have someone to talk to. Someone who he could work out his problems with, someone that would be a good listener. Seems funny to me so many of the people who live alone, finally get fed up and go on a killing spree. How could you have seen this coming>>??
60 posted on 07/27/2008 10:39:22 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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