M13
Posted on 07/28/2008 6:34:51 AM PDT by WilliamReading
BOCA RATON — Mo Brenner is taking Jewish pride to a new and controversial level.
The 27-year-old Boca Raton tattoo artist boasts a large Star of David on his upper right arm engraved with Abram, his Hebrew name.
He'll gladly sketch Hebrew writing and Jewish stars on his clients at Boca Body Art, because what could possibly be a better way to celebrate religion than with a shrine that will last a lifetime?
"A tattoo should really mean something to you," Brenner said. "Mine represents my religion and family."
With the tattoo phenomenon continuing to explode - 40 percent of people between the ages of 26 to 40 have at least one tattoo, according to the Pew Research Center - some Jews don't want to be left out.
But it's a contradiction for a religion that most believe forbids tattoos. Perhaps even more stinging, millions of Jews were forcibly tattooed during the Holocaust.
"I was always taught that nice Jewish people didn't do that," said 40-year-old Boca resident Amy Lubetkin. "When I think of tattoos, I think of the Holocaust and how tattooing of all these Jewish people was another way to take away their identity, take away from who they were."
Bruce Ratoff, a 55-year-old Boca resident, considers himself an only moderately observant Jew, yet there are certain lines he refuses to cross.
"Tattoos are a permanent mutilation and thus a direct violation of Jewish law," Ratoff said. "The Nazis were aware of this - it was a deliberate desecration when they tattooed concentration camp inmates. Why then should we deliberately choose to desecrate ourselves? I find this trend most disturbing."
Strangely enough, this is one of the reasons that younger Jews, like 18-year-old Alexis Engelhardt of West Palm Beach, are heading to tattoo parlors.
Engelhardt's grandmother was a Holocaust survivor, so he considered having "remember" tattooed on his forearm in Hebrew.
Ultimately he decided against it because he didn't want such a visible tattoo to hurt his chances at future employment. Instead, he modified a common tattoo of surfers - nautical stars at the front of the hips - using two Jewish stars.
"My parents were kind of upset when they found out, and so was my grandma, but it isn't that big of a deal," Engelhardt said. "I think you should take religion as more of a guideline instead of just rules saying this is how you should live. I think banning tattoos is a little bit ancient, and we're kind of past that."
Tattoo artist Brenner, the great-grandson of Jews caught up in the Holocaust, is thinking about adding yellow coloring to the Star of David on his arm.
Jewish people were forced to wear yellow stars and badges in Nazi Germany.
"I want to represent what they went through," Brenner said.
It's an argument that puzzles orthodox Rabbi Shlomo Uminer of the Chabad Jewish Center of Martin and St. Lucie Counties.
"That memory is not a good memory," Uminer said. "The memory of the Holocaust, that terrible act of barbarism that happened while the whole world watched and was quiet, is not something of remembrance. We shouldn't forget, but if you want to be clear that you're Jewish, wear a yarmulke (the traditional Jewish skullcap) on your head.
"How can you care about your religion when you disobey it (by getting a tattoo)? It just doesn't work."
Anthony Fratello, the Reform rabbi of Temple Shaarei Shalom in Boynton Beach, said he has very mixed emotions about tattoos on Jewish people.
He believes that the biblical text barring tattoos is "a bit vague" and that the real stigma these days stems from the Holocaust.
He's heard of people tattooing exact replicas of the numbers that were tattooed on the forearms of their relatives in concentration camps.
"There are those who see it as a way to reconnect with people that perished in the Holocaust, and I can see both sides of the argument," Fratello said.
However, he believes there is something sacred about keeping the body unmarked.
"I think there's a great deal that we can learn from the traditional perspective to say that it's your body, and God gave it you to take care of," Fratello said.
Many Jews have been reluctant to get tattoos because of a long-standing belief that the deceased can't be buried in Jewish cemeteries if they are tattooed.
However, even Orthodox rabbis like Uminer say that's a myth.
The Star of David of the Palm Beaches cemetery in West Palm Beach has no policy regarding tattoos, and Mount Sinai Memorial Park - an Orthodox cemetery in Miami - doesn't have its employees view the body before it is buried.
Once Ann Pardes of Boca Raton learned that prohibiting tattooed Jews from being buried was "just an old wives' tale," she permitted her son to get a tattoo in remembrance of his grandmother.
"I couldn't say no," Pardes said. "I thought it was for a very good reason, and it's a beautiful tattoo in memory of my mom. I'm even considering getting one myself."
Still, don't expect all Jewish people to go against a tattoo-forbidding mantra passed on for thousands of years.
"Every place I look, every movie star, every rock star, every athlete has tattoos, so I'm not surprised at this trend," Lubetkin said. "But I'm still going to instill in my children that Jewish people don't get tattoos. When my son was as young as 4 and he'd see somebody with a tattoo, he'd say, 'Mommy, that person's not Jewish.'"
There is nothing necessarily forbidden regarding a non-Jew wearing linen and wool or having a tatoo.
I would OPINE that sections of Leviticus are advisory to non-Jews and/or not applicable, as they have to do with ritual purity.
View Leviticus as a safe harbor. Jews must stay in the harbor, as that is the job for which they were chosen. Others may venture out -— at their risk.
It actually comes from the practice of idol worshippers to tattoo the image of their gods on their bodies.
I don't think Hitler personally served anything to prisoners in concentration camps.
“Anyone who would rather starve than violate a dietary law is no more intelligent than a muzzie.”
See: Maccabees.
Let’s try some perspective;
“Anyone who would rather die than renounce Christ is no more intelligent than a muzzie.”
No, you are wrong. Pious Jews can be the very model of human righteousness.
Did I say personally?
FWIW, I don’t think Hitler maded up the menus. It was sadistic camp guards who did that.
I have no tattoos and you probably have a few. Leviticus or not Jews have always been less into tattooing than Christians. Even before WW2 with tattoos from concentration camps
Pagan tribal members seem to be the most interested in tattoos. Like M-13 gang members
Tattoos are gross.
Wikipedia -—priestly code
The first 16 chapters and the last chapter of the book describe the Priestly Code, detailing ritual cleanliness, sin-offerings, and the Day of Atonement, including Chapter 12 which mandates male circumcision.[1] Chapters 17-26 describe the holiness code, including the injunction in chapter 19 to love one’s neighbor as oneself.[2] Among its many prohibitions, the book uses the word “abomination” 16 times, including dietary restrictions prohibiting shellfish, certain fowl, and “Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination”(chapter 11); and sexual restrictions, prohibiting adultery, incest, and lying “with mankind, as with womankind” (chapter 18, see also chapter 20); the book similarly prohibits eating pork and rabbits because they are “unclean.”[3] The rules in Leviticus are generally addressed to the descendants of Israel, except for example the prohibition in chapter 20 against sacrificing children to rival god Molech, which applies equally to “the strangers that sojourn in Israel”.[4]
According to tradition, Moses authored all five books of the Torah. According to the documentary hypothesis, Leviticus derives almost entirely from the priestly source (P), marked by emphasis on priestly concerns, composed c 550-400 BC, and incorporated into the Torah c 400 BC.
Wikipedia -—priestly code
The first 16 chapters and the last chapter of the book describe the Priestly Code, detailing ritual cleanliness, sin-offerings, and the Day of Atonement, including Chapter 12 which mandates male circumcision.[1] Chapters 17-26 describe the holiness code, including the injunction in chapter 19 to love one’s neighbor as oneself.[2] Among its many prohibitions, the book uses the word “abomination” 16 times, including dietary restrictions prohibiting shellfish, certain fowl, and “Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination”(chapter 11); and sexual restrictions, prohibiting adultery, incest, and lying “with mankind, as with womankind” (chapter 18, see also chapter 20); the book similarly prohibits eating pork and rabbits because they are “unclean.”[3] The rules in Leviticus are generally addressed to the descendants of Israel, except for example the prohibition in chapter 20 against sacrificing children to rival god Molech, which applies equally to “the strangers that sojourn in Israel”.[4]
According to tradition, Moses authored all five books of the Torah. According to the documentary hypothesis, Leviticus derives almost entirely from the priestly source (P), marked by emphasis on priestly concerns, composed c 550-400 BC, and incorporated into the Torah c 400 BC.
2. This is Boca Raton, a place I know all too well, having finished high school there, and having parents who have been living there for 18 years now. The Jewish kids you see with tattoos are far from kosher.
I still wonder what happened to the kid I knew back in my teens who would walk around Mizner Park and the Town Center Mall with a swastika t-shirt, despite being of the Jewish persuasion.
Oh look....NOW we are Pagan Tribal Members and Gang members....
Where do I fit in the time to be a member of all these things, what with the trailer park and the street corner....sigh.
I was trying to avoid this thread, but this one is just too funny! I think MS13 is included in the Pagan Love Tribe (”love” is a typo, but I’m keeping it), so it’s like killing two birds with one stone.
It shouldn’t interfere with our numerous criminal activities, street walking, trailer parkin’, and topless dancing.
Oh, or our hepatitis C treatment/spreading.
Sad thing is they would pay me to keep my clothes ON!!
M13
Does your wife know you approve of adultery? Instead of throwing rocks, she may throw lead.
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2007/may/02/bruin_ink/
Pagan Aztec tattoo.
Lorenzo Mata, Center, basketball
“This is a praying hands and a cross and it says, ‘Only God Can Judge Me’ and it has my mom’s name in the middle. And this one’s an Aztec warrior with some pyramids that actually got added to it. It kind of represents me.
A lot of people talk smack about me and judge me and they don’t even know me. It’s my mom – she’s always been there for me and is still there for me. The cross and the praying hands – just praying for everything that she’s always done because of hard times and everything. ... I got (the tattoo) for my mom. She would always pray for me. I do it all for her.
I’m Mexican and the Aztec warrior – I’m like a warrior on the court and I do whatever it takes to win. ... Aztec warriors, they did everything for their people and I’m doing everything for me and my people – the Mexican people – another role model for them to look up to.
I got this one (of the hands and cross) last summer. And (the Aztec warrior tattoo) I got last summer and I just added the pyramids two weeks ago.
So not my style....
Me, too. :-(
LOL
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