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Federal officials try to block Texas execution to allow world court review of case
The Dallas Morning News ^ | July 28, 2008 | DIANE JENNINGS

Posted on 07/28/2008 11:47:22 AM PDT by Texican72

Fourteen years and numerous judicial reviews have passed since José Medellin was sentenced to die after confessing to the brutal gang rape and murder of two teenage girls in Houston.

That's long enough, state officials say. It's time to carry out the sentence.

But defense attorneys, and an unusual coalition of federal officials, including no less than the attorney general and secretary of state, say if his Aug. 5 execution is not stayed, so Mr. Medellin's case can be reviewed one more time at the behest of the International Court of Justice, Texas will be rushing to judgment and endangering Americans abroad.

"Put simply, the United States seeks the help of the State of Texas," Attorney General Michael Mukasey and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice wrote Texas Gov. Rick Perry in a letter released by defense attorneys.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; antiamericanism; capitalcrime; crimaliens; deathpenalty; ganginitiation; houston; immigration; medillin; murder; rape; sexualassault; shadowgovernment; soverignnation; texas; worldcourt
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1 posted on 07/28/2008 11:47:23 AM PDT by Texican72
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To: Texican72

times up...time to die....


2 posted on 07/28/2008 11:49:13 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Texican72

These federal officials should be tried for treason. And then shot.


3 posted on 07/28/2008 11:49:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree, hang them.


4 posted on 07/28/2008 11:50:34 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Texican72

There is nothing more to litigate. There is simply a disagreement between the State of Texas and the World Court. Tell the World Court to pound sand and move on.


5 posted on 07/28/2008 11:50:58 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Texican72
Good thing that Texas is a Sovereign State and has the powers reserved to it under the Constitution of the United States.

/johnny

6 posted on 07/28/2008 11:51:21 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
These federal officials should be tried for treason. And then shot.

No, hang them with a rope...

7 posted on 07/28/2008 11:51:28 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

These federal officials should be tried for treason. And then shot.”

More waste of taxpayer dollars by people who have their own self-importance pumped way out of proportion to the facts of the case.
Wonder just how swiftly this perp killed his victims?????
Way too much taxpayer money is spent on these kinds of things.


8 posted on 07/28/2008 11:51:36 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: tatsinfla

Death week, not death row.

Seriously, why is it that we are abiding by the “World Court” when no one else would dare give up their soverignty?

Empirical Power we are, that is for damned sure.


9 posted on 07/28/2008 11:52:07 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("...If it moves, tax it, if it moves faster, regulate it, if it stops, subsidies it.")
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To: fightinbluhen51

Yet, we don’t act like one.


10 posted on 07/28/2008 11:52:20 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("...If it moves, tax it, if it moves faster, regulate it, if it stops, subsidies it.")
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To: Texican72
"Oh, posterity, you will never know how much it cost us to preserve your freedom. I hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it."

- John Adams

11 posted on 07/28/2008 11:52:22 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: Texican72
Not only no, but hell no.

We are not beholden to or under the authority of any world court.

If other places want to try and harm Americans over this, when a brutal murder of two young girls took place, then they will suffer 1st the loss of trade with the US as people and companies quit going there, and if they push it too far, they will suffer under the force of arms of the US Marines.

That's how this should work and these other nations better damn well be aware of it.

12 posted on 07/28/2008 11:54:16 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Texican72

The SCOTUS has ruled that this is a State, not a federal, issue. Just do it, Texas!


13 posted on 07/28/2008 11:54:36 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Texican72

Fire them all... then a public hanging for the scumbag.


14 posted on 07/28/2008 11:55:03 AM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: fightinbluhen51

we have gotten to the point where we worry more about offending outside nations. look at what we are becoming since we did away with America first. i shake my head each day.


15 posted on 07/28/2008 11:55:45 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Texican72
"José Medellin was sentenced to die after confessing to the brutal gang rape and murder of two teenage girls in Houston."

So the World Court excuses these kinds of crimes? What about the two teenage girls? They don't count? What about the families of the two girls? Justice was served and punishment needs to be carried out post haste.
16 posted on 07/28/2008 11:55:47 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Texican72

The “World Court” isn’t looking for a flaw in the case, the world opinion is that the death penalty is “wrong”. Not so much public outcry against the gang rape and murder of two teenaged girls.

The victims were hispanic too so there is no racial element to this seeking punishment. The father one of the girls publicly speaks out these days that he agrees with the punishment.


17 posted on 07/28/2008 11:55:58 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Texican72

world court??? this “court” doesn´t exist in this world.


18 posted on 07/28/2008 11:56:10 AM PDT by austrian
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To: fightinbluhen51

Did you mean “Imperial” power?...............


19 posted on 07/28/2008 11:56:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: All

This act of anti-American treason, the Bush Admin supporting the rights of an illegal alien scumbag murderer over the rights of American citizens, is sickening.

And there are still people who believe Bush and the GOP is conservative...


20 posted on 07/28/2008 11:56:57 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (McBama....Over 300 Million Screwed)
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To: Texican72

This is not the America my grandfather knew.


21 posted on 07/28/2008 11:57:18 AM PDT by polymuser (Taxpayers voting for Obama are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: Texican72

Come on Texas, you’re the country’s last hope.


22 posted on 07/28/2008 11:57:24 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston PING


23 posted on 07/28/2008 11:57:53 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Texican72

“and endangering Americans abroad.”

other than in Islamic countries, Americans have no reason to fear being put to death by any Government. they do not believe in capital punishment and want to imposed, their views on us.


24 posted on 07/28/2008 11:58:28 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Red Badger
Yes, sorry for my horrible spelling.
25 posted on 07/28/2008 12:02:01 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("...If it moves, tax it, if it moves faster, regulate it, if it stops, subsidies it.")
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To: Texican72

Unbelievable.


26 posted on 07/28/2008 12:02:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Texican72

Pi$$ on the Feds! Shoot him up Yesterday!


27 posted on 07/28/2008 12:02:13 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: weegee
The “World Court” isn’t looking for a flaw in the case, the world opinion is that the death penalty is “wrong”. Not so much public outcry against the gang rape and murder of two teenaged girls.

You nailed it. This is nothing more than an attempt by death penalty foes to stop these executions. They claim the poor fellows weren't advised that they could contact their consul, as if that would have changed anything.

Texas will do the right thing and carry out justice in accordance with their laws.

28 posted on 07/28/2008 12:02:28 PM PDT by free me
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To: ClearCase_guy

No, that’d let them off too easily, they need to be gang raped and murdered the same way the victim’s were.


29 posted on 07/28/2008 12:03:17 PM PDT by MissEdie (On the Sixth Day God created Spurrier)
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To: Texican72
Sounds like a serious Constitutional battle could be brewing.
We'll see if the state of Texas has the juice to stand up to the Fed on this one. They are in the right. The Federales have no business with their noses in this issue.
30 posted on 07/28/2008 12:03:53 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great spirits will always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds.)
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To: Liberty Valance
More info about the actual crime here.
31 posted on 07/28/2008 12:03:54 PM PDT by packrat35 (If mccain is the answer-it must have been a REALLY stupid question)
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To: weegee

Actually, the issue is that this piece of human debris didn’t get to consult with his consulate before trial or something to that effect. If TX execute him, this may put American abroad in the same situation - unable to contact their consulate while being held for a crime.
Of course, I doubt it occurred to this piece of trash to ask. Most Americans know enough to demand to speak to their consulate as soon as they are arrested.
An any case, waste the bastard. Americans abroad will have to take their chances.


32 posted on 07/28/2008 12:03:54 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Jeff Head
The 2 Dem congressmen should be impeached. Their oath was to the Constitution. Same with the SCOTUS. If I hear one Justice even cite a "world court" ruling, they need to be removed. The "sanctuary city" officials should also be removed.

Are we seeing a pattern here?

I still believe the oath you take ought to mean something. If you take an oath to enforce American law, that's what we expect. You have no choice of laws you like or don't like.

33 posted on 07/28/2008 12:04:35 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: fightinbluhen51

You spelled it right..............But it was kinda funny. Empirical means something that can be proven by observation...........


34 posted on 07/28/2008 12:11:16 PM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Little Ray

This man was not DENIED contact with his consulate. He and his lawyers never made the request.

A foreign nation which would DENY an American who requests audience with his consulate would be a different thing.


35 posted on 07/28/2008 12:11:25 PM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Texican72

It’s ridiculous for alien criminal defendants to invoke this treaty on appeal when they never made any request to contact their country’s embassy before they went on trial. How is the state of Texas supposed to know that a prisoner is not a US citizen if that prisoner does not inform the state of that fact?


36 posted on 07/28/2008 12:12:54 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Texican72
The World Court is made up of left wing idiots who will NOT approve of any death of any criminal no matter the crime. As with the other left wing idiots in the EU it is their position to be on the side of the criminals and murderers and to hell with the victims.

Hang him!

37 posted on 07/28/2008 12:15:18 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: weegee
The difference between being denied access to his consulate and not asking for it is apparently a very subtle difference, and probably a nonexistent one to the legal weasels.
“You should have TOLD us to contact the Mexican Consulate...” or something to that effect. You know how “rights” in the legal world tend to morph...
38 posted on 07/28/2008 12:16:49 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Under amnesty and sanctuary provisions of many communities, he is to be accepted as a citizen (even though he may not vote).

He’s treated as a local and suddenly there is an outcry.


39 posted on 07/28/2008 12:21:15 PM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Little Ray

A public defender (don’t know if he used one) may give him flawed representation but that is true of any lawyer even in private practice. Was it a deliberate act on the part of his legal defense to deny him access to his consulate?


40 posted on 07/28/2008 12:23:05 PM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: weegee
The “World Court” isn’t looking for a flaw in the case, the world opinion is that the death penalty is “wrong”.

Unless it is applied by Iran for "crimes" like blasphemy and apostacy.

41 posted on 07/28/2008 12:23:50 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Texican72

No such thing as a World Court.


42 posted on 07/28/2008 12:27:11 PM PDT by marron
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To: Texican72

What a bunch of dunces. By my count in 162 hours, 25 minutes and this should all be over.


43 posted on 07/28/2008 12:28:24 PM PDT by ljco (I think the best possible social program is a job. - The Gipper)
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To: weegee

Who do these people think they are? The day Texas is ordered by the Feds to follow directives of a “world court” is the day we need to say adios to the Union.


44 posted on 07/28/2008 12:28:57 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Texican72
This sounds like a real Blame Bush.

Texas Courts derive their power from the people and are not subservient to any foreign court. Kinda like an elected Sheriff.

States agreed to share some power with the Feds in joining the union, but never agreed to have their courts ruled by foreigners, who have no standing in creating the States in the first place.

45 posted on 07/28/2008 12:29:59 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Texican72

If the Feds “win” and stop the execution, it is time for Texas to succeed from the union.


46 posted on 07/28/2008 12:31:45 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: austrian

What Branch of Gov. is the World Court according to our Constitution? Go Texas.


47 posted on 07/28/2008 12:33:24 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: mortal19440

as said before a “world court” does not exist


48 posted on 07/28/2008 12:38:02 PM PDT by austrian
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To: Texican72; All

We need to put 100% of Nafta on hold, 100% of U.S. visa’s for Mexican’s on hold and 100% of U.S.-Mexican cooperation on hold, until we have a treaty with Mexico whereby Mexico acknowledges that Mexican nationals convicted in any state of the United States will be held accountable to and punishable under the laws of those states, whether or not the punishment conforms or does not conform to what is permitted in Mexico.

In other words, Mexico needs to formally acknowledge that some of our states have the death penalty and that any of its citizens that commit a crime in the U.S. may, may, be subject to that penalty and either Mexico accepts that or we have no basis of accepting any Mexican traveling to the U.S., for any reason.


49 posted on 07/28/2008 12:39:43 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Texican72

14 years is a rush to judgment???


50 posted on 07/28/2008 12:40:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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