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To: GodGunsGuts
You seem not to be able to cut through the clutter to the heart of the matter. It's fight between those that think HIV causes AIDS and those that don't. There are scientists on both sides of the question. I read the “sordid history” link and other than proclaiming the CDC a power hungry monster(hardly something unheard of) the real statement being made is,’HIV doesn't cause AIDS’.
Then there are organizations on the opposite side, like Alert at www.alert.org (which are copyright protected) that you might read.
But we need not rely on scientists with agendas or power desires, we need only observe people who don't have AIDS acquiring AIDS after being infected with HIV. This happens from transfusing infected blood. Uninfected blood doesn't produce AIDS in the recipient. A few years back a gay dentist in Florida infected Kimberly Bergalis with HIV. She later died of AIDS as did the dentist. She was not in any risk group.
Those who claim HIV doesn't produce AIDS might well have their own agenda too, might’en they?
13 posted on 07/31/2008 3:09:32 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

They have a HUGE agenda, and it blinds them to reality.


14 posted on 07/31/2008 3:16:13 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: count-your-change
==You seem not to be able to cut through the clutter to the heart of the matter. It's fight between those that think HIV causes AIDS and those that don't.

Wrong. There are several issues involved. Yes, there is a growing movement of scientists and medical doctors who challenge the HIV/AIDS hypothesis. But you left out the other (extremely important conservative) issues that are completely independent of the scientific debate over the real cause of AIDS.

Things you failed to mention:

A) The CDC/EIS have a history of exaggerating the scope of epidemics, thus scarring congress and the public into granting them more money and power.

B) The CDC/EIS has been a hotbed of “family planning” (read: eugenics) fanaticism.

C) The EIS (aka the “medical CIA”) has largely escaped public scrutiny because it was designed to operate below the radar of MSM.

D) Many prominent members of the media (this is especially pronounced amongst science/public health reporters) are themselves EIS alumni, who hold lifelong reserve status, who both plant and spike news stories on behalf of the EIS.

If you had bothered to read the articles I posted, you would know this—GGG

18 posted on 07/31/2008 5:13:09 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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