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More details released on FLDS compound raid
KSL.com ^ | April 10th, 2008 | John Hollenhorst and Randall Jeppesen reporting

Posted on 08/01/2008 6:22:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2

There are new questions about the raid on a polygamist compound in Texas. What did authorities know, when did they know it, and why did they wait so long to go in if hundreds of women and girls were in fear of being abused?

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Considering the high emotions and tense situation, it's remarkable it didn't turn out worse. When Texas Rangers and state police surrounded the compound and started looking for children, it took days instead of hours. The parents didn't want them found. Capt. Barry Caver, with the Texas Rangers, said, "They were shuffled around houses as we were searching the houses. They were kind of like the eggshell game. And we were trying to, we had issues with that."

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The most dramatic episode sounds like a scene from a movie, a very tense movie. As Texas Rangers moved in to search for the girl in the FLDS temple, 57 of the faithful surrounded it to protect it from invaders. "Several of them would just set down and kneel down and pray, some of them were sobbing. But again we had only one person that attempted any resistance at all," Capt. Caver said.

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Rangers brought in a locksmith, but he couldn't get the door open. "So we had to breach it physically, and breach every other door inside physically," Caver said. No one was in the temple, but the searchers found beds on the top floor, lending credence to a story told by an informant that FLDS men routinely had sex in the temple following their spiritual marriages to underage girls. "I have a good informant that's given me great information over the past four years, but I will go into no detail other than that on my informant," said Sheriff David Doran.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flds; jeffs; yfzranch
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This is an old article, but it answers some of the questions many posters have asked about.

Notice that they found BEDS, not just one bed.

The ONE BED had dirty linens, and a female hair, and that is what got in the news.

1 posted on 08/01/2008 6:22:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
"When Texas Rangers and state police surrounded the compound and started looking for children, it took days instead of hours."

UCANSEE2, are you going to continue denying that the police were involved in removing the women and children? LOL

2 posted on 08/01/2008 7:14:42 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Morgana

Very good point.

Of course, we won’t see that until the upcoming trials, but there is nothing wrong with good, healthy, skepticism.


4 posted on 08/01/2008 7:29:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

In a place with literally hundreds of children, it could have been a nap /rest area / cry room equivalent.
If it was one bed shrouded in curtains and laurels, OK, weird version of a honey moon.
But a big room with lots of beds and only ONE comes up suspicious? Heck, that’s almost proof for innocence.


5 posted on 08/01/2008 8:16:45 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: UCANSEE2; hocndoc; Pebcak

http://www.myeldorado.net/


6 posted on 08/01/2008 8:19:34 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: UCANSEE2

I find the wording odd. They did not find a sanctified marriage bed that was proof of a disgusting practice. They found beds that “lend credence to an informant”, meaning it only supports their suspicions if they want to think it does.


7 posted on 08/01/2008 8:26:41 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: UCANSEE2

farming baby girss for future sex is not a crime i guess.


8 posted on 08/01/2008 8:44:40 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: tbw2

“They did not find a sanctified marriage bed that was proof of a disgusting practice.”

We don’t know whether they did or not. It also depends on your definition of a sanctified marriage bed.


“They found beds that “lend credence to an informant”, meaning it only supports their suspicions if they want to think it does.”

Do you know what the informant said about the use of the beds?


Overall, you are correct in that the beds situation, by itself, proves nothing.


9 posted on 08/01/2008 9:18:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: dalebert

“farming baby girss for future sex is not a crime i guess.”

I’m not sure of the intent of your comment.

In a way, all parents are farming baby girls for future sex, and boys too. Depends on the meaning of farming.

However, for most of us, that ‘future sex’ isn’t between the parents and the children, or other relatives, who were adults.

If by ‘farming’ you mean being brainwashed from birth into believing that you must follow only the orders of one man, and God speaks directly to him, and that the laws of the US and Texas, or any other state, do not matter, then, yes, farming.


10 posted on 08/01/2008 9:25:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: CindyDawg
Gracias.
11 posted on 08/01/2008 11:20:01 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: UCANSEE2
Let me be the first with the mandatory announcement that:

The FLDS are not Mormons! *


* Despite the fact the FLDS have the same sacred scripture (Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine & Covenants), the same founding prophets, the same temple ceremonies, and are following the teachings of Mormonism as proclaimed by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

12 posted on 08/02/2008 2:22:18 AM PDT by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: UCANSEE2

Farming as in brain washing is what I meant. Sorry should have corrected my post.


13 posted on 08/02/2008 5:37:30 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: CindyDawg; Alice in Wonderland; brytlea; Froufrou; Ron Jeremy; narses; ozaukeemom; pandoraou812; ...
From your link at #6, Cindy:

LATEST NEWS -- Updated 11:45 a.m. Friday, August 1, 2008 The Success has learned that William Sunderland Jessop, 29, died Thursday, July 31, 2008, of unknown causes at the YFZ Ranch. The official cause of death has not been released pending an autopsy but, authorities say they do not suspect foul play. Jessop was the son of YFZ overseer Merril F. Jessop. He is believed to be survived by two wives and at least six children, as well as his parents and numerous brothers and sisters

One could speculate that young William may not care to face possible future problems with law enforcement.

14 posted on 08/02/2008 5:54:21 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Eighteen new "I love Romney" threads in the past week,.and counting! Flacking for VP or love-god?)
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To: greyfoxx39

Maybe he was the sheriff’s informant?


15 posted on 08/02/2008 6:08:40 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Maybe he was the sheriff’s informant?

HMMmmmm!!

16 posted on 08/02/2008 6:14:16 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Eighteen new "I love Romney" threads in the past week,.and counting! Flacking for VP or love-god?)
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To: greyfoxx39

Wow, I’m just back from vacation (yes, I was at the ranch adjoining the compound—it’s beautiful country) and hadn’t heard THIS tidbit!
susie


17 posted on 08/02/2008 7:40:20 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: greyfoxx39

Any of yall are welcome to start a new thread on it. I’ve been here almost 8 years and still haven’t figured out how to do it :’)


18 posted on 08/02/2008 8:10:21 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

What!

Are you serious?


19 posted on 08/02/2008 8:29:57 AM PDT by JRochelle (John McCain will be better than Bush on wasteful government spending.)
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To: brytlea
yes, I was at the ranch adjoining the compound—it’s beautiful country

Really? What can you tell us about the activity or lack of same at the compound now?

Have all the "chosen ones" been moved to other compounds? I suspect there is just a skeleton crew running the place now, and most are women and children...am I close?

20 posted on 08/02/2008 8:36:55 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Eighteen new "I love Romney" threads in the past week,.and counting! Flacking for VP or love-god?)
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