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To: Antoninus
Please, by all means, explain your position on abortion in your own words.

I have often thought about doing that. I also know that to do so would open me up to personal attacks. Let's just say that while I am not for abortion I am not 100% against it.

I will be brief. There is more to it than what I will post but the basics are these:

My personal belief is that those souls who were aborted will come back at another time when the world is ready for them and when God decides it is time.

My beliefs have nothing to do with politics or the law. It's about the love of God and his protection of the souls of the unborn. He knows their life and their time. Not us.

71 posted on 08/02/2008 3:43:29 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr; antonius
"My personal belief is that those souls who were aborted will come back at another time when the world is ready for them and when God decides it is time."

That is totally contrary to God's word, which places the creation of the soul and spirit at the point of union between the Father and Mother.

Are you some kind of Hindu?

76 posted on 08/02/2008 4:02:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: raybbr
My personal belief is that those souls who were aborted will come back at another time when the world is ready for them and when God decides it is time.

In my experience, when someone presents vague opposition on an issue but won't reveal their true beliefs on it unless pressed, statements like this one are the inevitable result.

Thanks for your belated forthrightness, but you are wrong. Abortion is a grave moral evil that must be opposed. Killing an unborn child is a human deciding that they know better than God. It's the ultimate non serviam of our times.
88 posted on 08/02/2008 4:19:05 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: raybbr; Antoninus
I have often thought about doing that. I also know that to do so would open me up to personal attacks. Let's just say that while I am not for abortion I am not 100% against it.

I notice that you are concerned about illegal aliens in this country. I wonder if it has occurred to you that the problem with the aliens is DIRECTLY RELATED to abortion.

When FDR created the Ponzi scheme known as Social Security, it was a viable scheme because the average person would only live long enough to collect for a few years, if at all. However, advances in in medicine increased life expectancy; nevertheless, the scheme was still workable.

Then after World War II the Baby Boom started; however, even this wouldn't strain Social Security because the presumption was that this generation would eventually reproduce at normal and predictable levels.

Then in 1973, just as the bulk of the Baby Boomers were entering their prime reproductive years, abortion came along and about a decade earlier, birth control became fully legal and things like the Pill also reduced childbirth. These factors, but mainly abortion, created an unpredictable abnormality in population growth. We didn't just kill 50 MILLION+ innocent Americans, we killed 50 MILLION+ TAXPAYERS and WORKERS.

Why are there so many jobs available for illegal aliens (and just so we're clear, the notion that they work for substandard wages is no longer true and hasn't been for a long time)? Because Americans have not reproduced at normal rates in the past 35 years.

Why do some want to grant the illegals amnesty? Very simple, Baby Boomers are ready to start retiring by the tens of millions and the ONLY way to preserve Social Security is to add TAXPAYERS.

Would we still have illegal aliens in the country without abortion? Certainly. Would we have no many? NO, because the jobs wouldn't be there.

91 posted on 08/02/2008 4:38:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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