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McCain Forgetting the First Rule of Fight Club
Real Clear Politics ^ | August 03, 2008 | Salena Zito

Posted on 08/03/2008 12:00:56 PM PDT by Publius804

McCain Forgetting the First Rule of Fight Club

By Salena Zito

An old political adage says, "He who sets the debate wins the election."

If the presidential election was held tomorrow, it would be hello President Barack Obama because, so far, John McCain is handing him a victory.

McCain is better than the campaign he has run so far. Most people admit that McCain is an inspirational figure - even Obama has admitted that - so why isn't McCain telling voters where he wants to lead them?

Instead, his campaign is all about his opponent.

"He himself is reinforcing that this campaign is all about Obama," says Democratic strategist Mark Siegel. "His ads and his message are all negatives. The problem with that is, it is driving his own negatives up as well."

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crankyoldman; election; electionpresident; gop; mccain; mccainlist; message; obama; platform; poorpoorrinos; presidency
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To: Publius804

The first rule (and second rule) of Fight Club is “You do not talk about Fight Club”, not “You do not talk about your opponent”.


21 posted on 08/03/2008 1:30:12 PM PDT by RichInOC (Obama '08: Ich Bin Ein Beginner.)
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To: Publius804
"McCain is better than the campaign he has run so far."

That's a stretch.

22 posted on 08/03/2008 1:31:38 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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To: Publius804

Basically, the only two ways McCain can get press or air time is to talk about Obama or make a gaffe.

Go figure.


23 posted on 08/03/2008 1:38:44 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: KansasGirl
As I said elsewhere, in the immortal words of Hollywood producer Jack Wolz to Tom Hagen, "A man in my position can't be made to look ridiculous." The haloed one is , by his own hand and that of the MSM, being made to look ridiculous.

When the final 8 weeks begin after Labor Day, the McCain people will hit more than enough big issues to make the haloed one feel that he's awakened with the head of a horse in his bed.

24 posted on 08/03/2008 2:00:00 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: Publius804
The author could not be more wrong. This election will have little or nothing to do with McCain. The simple choice is Obama or “other”, and the way things are shaping up, “other” looks like a shoe in. The less we hear about McCain, the better his chances. In fact, the only way McCain could screw it up would be by attracting attention to himself, hence the negative campaign.
25 posted on 08/03/2008 2:00:27 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV
How do you feel Obama’s massive get-out-the-vote strategy compares to polls? Does it really matter what the polls say, if one candidate is able to produce more votes on election day?

Obama has the largest field operation in the history of American politics.

In Alaska, Obama has four field offices open (Juneau, Fairbanks, Anchorage, Palmer) to McCain’s none. In Montana, Obama had six offices to McCain’s none in July ...

In Virginia, Obama has a 20-6 field office edge, with as many as 60 expected to be open in the near future ... in each of Florida and Pennsylvania Obama is expected to have a minimum of 200 paid organizers.

In Wisconsin, Obama has 15 offices open now, with 24 expected to be open by mid-August. The staffers are directly paid by Obama’s “Campaign for Change” organization. By contrast, Republicans have five party offices open that handle both McCain field work as well as the state leg. races, which somewhat dilutes the effort.

Already there is staff on the ground in traditional battleground states, as well as a number of nontraditional ones. Current plans call for large-scale operations in at least 22 states, with medium operations in many, many others. But paid staff are just one small part of what campaign manager David Plouffe has described as “the persuasion army.”

From the July 19th edition of the Boston Globe:

“The climate has made millions of Americans who haven't been involved in a political campaign ever in their lifetimes very active,” said. “We estimate that 70 percent of our grass-roots volunteers haven't worked in a campaign before. . . . We're somewhere just shy of 2 million volunteers, and we think we can potentially triple that on Election Day.”

That would mean 6 million volunteers. For comparison, about 116 million people voted in the 2004 presidential election.

The Obama-Clinton battle set primary turnout records in state after state, and Hildebrand expects more of the same in November: “We think the turnout will be beyond record turnout, and if we're effective, we will have done two additional things - brought in millions of new people who are registered to vote and we will increase the percentage of registered voters who will turn out.”

To accomplish that, Obama’s campaign is assembling what would be the largest field operation in the history of American politics. Advertising and campaign communications will be important and debate performances will be critical, but the Obama campaign is investing heavily in the importance of organizing voters and getting them to the polls on Nov. 4.

... “This allows us to increase the volume of voters we're talking to and have it be done with people who live in their community,” Hildebrand said.

Veteran Democratic operative John Sasso of Massachusetts said that level of organization is “unprecedented on the Democratic side.” The Obama model, particularly in its use of the Internet as an organizing tool, is a significant upgrade, he said.

“People tend to believe information delivered by people they know and who live in their neighborhood more than an ad they see on television or what some third party from out of their state is telling them,” said Sasso, who supported Clinton in the primaries and has played key roles in many presidential campaigns. “It can really change the electoral map.”

Throughout the day today, we'll be looking at some of the many events that have been going on across the country as we begin to build out our ground operation. In many places, there are already staff and offices that you can connect with. No matter where you live, you can sign-up for updates on campaign activities in your area and connect with grassroots supporters in your community.

There is no better way to reach to voters than through face to face contact. What began in Iowa and South Carolina is now being replicated across the country. The largest field operation in the history of American politics presents an unprecedented opportunity for ordinary people to get involved. Per obama’s website.

He might have 6,000,000 volunteers in addition to hundreds of paid staff for get out the vote. Their minds are already made up, and the majority of these are new voters. Obama has the money to spend on driving his get-out-the-vote effort.

26 posted on 08/03/2008 2:14:52 PM PDT by falpro
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To: Publius804
McCain is better than the campaign he has run so far. Most people admit that McCain is an inspirational figure - even Obama has admitted that - so why isn't McCain telling voters where he wants to lead them?

Instead, his campaign is all about his opponent.


Pretty good article, and something I've bee saying for a few weeks now - the moment McCain started making this all about Obama, is the moment that he finally lost the race.

It didn't work for Hillary Clinton (and she played much dirtier than McCain has), but like somebody said, when McCain started heavily courting Hillary supporters, even featuring them on his web page for a while, it was to be expected he might try some of the tactics that appealed to those supporters, but he forgets that Hillary lost.

When you make your campaign all about your opponent, you may point out their flaws to a few undecideds, but in the process, you only make the case why they shouldn't vote for Obama, you don't make the caes of why they should vote for you, and that's much more important.

You also give your opponent a chance to refute anything you say, because the media immediately rushes to him to hear his side, and more importantly you are giving your opponent much more air time by focusing on him.
27 posted on 08/03/2008 2:29:47 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: ilgipper

Agreed and all the Senate and House Pubs running should put out ads defining not only Obama but all 435 Dem socialist pacifists. A .30 second ad could do it with a simple list of 5 issues where Pubs differ with their opponents and the Dem Messiah.


28 posted on 08/03/2008 2:34:04 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Publius804
IMHO McCain is not running to win he is running to show, nothing more. while the media is having seemingly minute by minute Barackgasims over this Marxist want-ta-be there is no real choice for the huddled masses. We collectively bend over and drop trou for our "flavor of the month" politician we accept the LCD (lowest common denominator) hopping we will get something other than what we have, ie a ruling class in Washington. They throw a few bones and we (collectively) are awed by the BS that they sling, but yet we do nothing, and wail and gnash teeth when they screw us again. Term limits would be nice, but real action from the electors would be at least novel.

Oh well, I vote no to either. Since I do not believe that McCain is in this to win, I will not vote for him.

Perhaps Pat Paulson

29 posted on 08/03/2008 2:50:14 PM PDT by SERE_DOC (Todays politicians, living proof why we have and need a second amendment to the constitution.)
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To: medscribe

You’re right. Let’s tear him down so we can usher in the presidency of the second coming of Lenin. /sarc


30 posted on 08/03/2008 3:08:04 PM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Publius804

I think the slaying of the Clinton “sopranos” by B.O., out of the blue, rattled everyone - McCain staff included, MSM, the left, the right - everyone.

McCain & Co needed some time to “process” this, rethink what happened, decide a strategy.

It’s not over yet


31 posted on 08/03/2008 3:14:13 PM PDT by 4Liberty (discount window = bank corporate welfare + inflation tax)
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To: KansasGirl
They are turning the media adoration and huge crowds of Obama into a negative not a positive.

There. Fixed it.
32 posted on 08/03/2008 4:54:37 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: Publius804

Washington lobbyist Mark Siegel

Siegel, a former Executive Director of the Democratic National Committee and Deputy Assistant to the President in the Carter White House

During the 2000 presidential recount crisis, he was the on-air consultant to The Today Show on NBC.

During three Democratic National Conventions, Siegel served as political consultant to Walter Cronkite, acting as his analyst and spotter.

Siegel was the chief strategist of the Humphrey for President Campaign in 1972, the political director of the Democratic National Convention in 1976 and the Coordinator of the Draft Kennedy movement in 1980.

He has also served as speechwriter to President Nazarbaev of Kazakhstan, Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan, and Prime Minister Henny Eman of Aruba.

Mark Siegel was a very close friend and confidante of the late Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. Their relationship spanned the past twenty-five years, during which time Mark served as her representative in Washington during the tenures of her two governments, was her speech writer, and worked with her on her historic speech before a joint session of congress in 1989.


33 posted on 08/03/2008 5:01:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: frankiep
You’re right. Let’s tear him down so we can usher in the presidency of the second coming of Lenin. /sarc

So far in this century, the Republicans are not doing much better than the Democrats. They waste Congressional majorities, they give us a larger, more powerful federal government that is keen on removing even more control from local and state entities over various issues. They don't listen to their military commanders until it's almost too late and/or pick the wrong ones to listen too based on how closely they align themselves with the official line. In a very important Supreme Court decision, they sided against land owners. I could go on, but it's too damn depressing.
34 posted on 08/03/2008 5:33:30 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
Pretty good article, and something I've bee saying for a few weeks now - the moment McCain started making this all about Obama, is the moment that he finally lost the race.

What positives does McCain have to run on beyond the fact that he's not Obama? It seems to me that his being 'not Obama' is by far his best quality, so why should he not focus on it?

Frankly, I'd much rather have someone who could run a positive campaign, but I don't really see how Obama could do that.

35 posted on 08/03/2008 6:50:20 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
What positives does McCain have to run on beyond the fact that he's not Obama? It seems to me that his being 'not Obama' is by far his best quality, so why should he not focus on it?

When your platform is "I'm not the other guy" and not "You should vote for me because I believe this, this, and this", then you probably shouldn't be running.

Of course, McCain started out on "I've got this experience, I've done this, done that, etc". I guess maybe he ran of steam and got desperate and pulled a Hillary.

Unfortunately for McCain, and Hillary has proven this, it doesn't work against Obama. Hillary was doing everything she could to say that Obama had all but planted bombs all over the place and she still lost. In the end, Hillary may have won the angry white middle-aged Virginia Slims-smoking female demographic, but she lost overall.

To McCain's credit, he hasn't went as far as Hillary has, but it's pretty clear he's following her campaign's line-of-attack and it's pretty clear he'll end up losing. People get tired of that stuff, and they begin to lap up everything Obama says because they are tired of politicians attacking one another (regardless of whether it's deserved or not).

It's pretty sad that McCain is handing the campaign to Obama. I know that after what Rove (and Bush) did to McCain in 2000, that McCain (and his wife) would never really forgive Rove for the vicious rumors and what-not, but at some point McCain has to swallow his pride and try and get Rove on board.
36 posted on 08/03/2008 7:11:27 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: medscribe
McCain’s campaign so far is so uninspiring and amateurish that it makes the Dukakis campaign look brilliant. It’s going to be a Democratic landslide for Obama.

While I believe that McCain's campaign thus far is pretty much as you describe, the fact is that the Obama campaign is even worse. The truth of this is attested to by recent polling.

McCain should have been buried by now, with all the advantages given the Dems thus far. Fact is, despite all these advantages, McCain is still in a dead heat. Ask yourself why?

the infowarrior

37 posted on 08/03/2008 7:59:15 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: frankiep

McCain has not given any reason why anyone should vote FOR him. You can’t just be against something or someone and win elections. You must be FOR something, and McCain so far has come up empty.


38 posted on 08/03/2008 8:30:37 PM PDT by medscribe
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To: infowarrior

Remember 1980? 2008 is 1980 but this time the Dems will have the landslide. The polls during that election were pretty close, right up until Election Day, which turned out to be a blowout for Ronald Reagan.

McCain can’t even excite the GOP base less than 4 months from November. There is no way in hell he’s going to pick up the independent voters he needs to win.

As for the polls that steadily come out, they’re totally useless. Remember that it’s not the popular vote that wins (or we’d have President Al Gore for the past 8 years), it’s the electoral vote, and only the electoral vote, that counts. There are no “blue” states that McCain even comes close to picking up right now. Given the defections of the RINOS in states like NH, CO, NM, etc, Obama will pick up enough of those battleground states to win the 270 electoral votes needed to get the keys to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


39 posted on 08/03/2008 8:38:26 PM PDT by medscribe
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To: Publius804; Red Steel
I agree Red, what makes me think this strategy is working is the way the libs are whining about it.

Yep, liberal scumbag whining is always the best barometer.

40 posted on 08/03/2008 8:43:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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