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On the KABA site, it was noted that Michigan has a premption law to prohibit local gun ordinances. If that applies in this case, it looks like a clear violation of civil rights under color of law case.
1 posted on 08/06/2008 4:13:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Here is a link to opencarry.org. They have a detailed examination of Michigan law in this regard. It appears that Grand Haven is in deep doo-doo.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/13328.html

2 posted on 08/06/2008 4:18:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Another affront to Constitutional protections, IMO...


3 posted on 08/06/2008 4:19:14 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: grellis

ping


4 posted on 08/06/2008 4:24:51 AM PDT by magslinger (A politician who thinks he is above the law is actually beneath contempt.)
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To: marktwain

Clear violation of the second amendment and our God given rights.


6 posted on 08/06/2008 4:28:19 AM PDT by doodad
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"It is very dangerous and very frightening to spectators down there," Reiss said. "It simply isn't a place to have a gun."

That being the case, I really admire the unarmed officers making the arrest of an armed citizen going about his lawful business.

Of course /sarc

7 posted on 08/06/2008 4:30:22 AM PDT by magslinger (A politician who thinks he is above the law is actually beneath contempt.)
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To: marktwain

Bump! ;-)


8 posted on 08/06/2008 4:31:34 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: marktwain

I’m frightened simply by reading this!

Guns in the hands of freeman - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

THINK OF THE CHILDREN?????????????????????


9 posted on 08/06/2008 4:50:12 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Hussein Obama for Caliph 2008!)
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To: marktwain

Yes everyone knows you can shoot down an airliner in the sky with a Glock! Or use it to shoot once at a car door, whereupon the car will instantly explode in a huge fireball!


11 posted on 08/06/2008 5:05:39 AM PDT by ikka
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To: marktwain

OK...which FReeper was this ?????


12 posted on 08/06/2008 5:07:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Republic Can

This is why I wouldn’t open carry. Too many cops don’t know or care that it’s legal.


15 posted on 08/06/2008 5:27:56 AM PDT by Steve0113 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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bump for later


18 posted on 08/06/2008 5:48:16 AM PDT by laker_dad
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"It is very dangerous and very frightening...

To whom is it dangerous and frightening?

Cops carry open in every state, many states have open carry for civilians. Are all the citizens who see a gun frightened and in danger? Is so, then just about everyone in the country must be frightened and in danger.

21 posted on 08/06/2008 6:32:58 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Blaming CO2 for global warming is like blaming your thermometer for your kid's fever.)
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“The man was carrying a Glock 40 handgun... His weapon was also confiscated by police.”

Yep, it’s a keeper!


22 posted on 08/06/2008 7:12:26 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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grellis: mi ping!

marktwain: yes MI allows open carry, and there is no exception for localities to enact more strict gun control laws, HOWEVER, as cox, and previous AG’s have pointed out, and have specifically said that open carry in MI is a bad idea as you will be harrassed by the police.
IIRC, the opinion is that the most likely charge is something akin to inciting terror.
what we need to know is what the actual charge is.


23 posted on 08/06/2008 7:23:32 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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While Michigan law allows carrying concealed weapons with a permit, Grand Haven has a local ordinance prohibiting openly possessing and carrying dangerous weapons in public, Reiss said. People carrying weapons can be frightening and the department received several verbal complaints about the man, Reiss said.

Were the cops arrested as well? If it isn't safe for a law abiding gun owner to carry a firearm openly there, then it isn't safe for the doughnut brigade to be carrying either.

Or is this yet another liberal "two legs good, four legs bad" kind of thing?

24 posted on 08/06/2008 7:27:16 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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If thats the case lt reiss needs to do hard time...period...

his statement is clear evidence of utter stupidity concerning the laws hes supposed to follow, or blatant and willful deprivation of rights...

LFOD...

26 posted on 08/06/2008 9:09:38 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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I don’t agree with the law, but open-carrying in a large crowd after dark isn’t smart, unless you’re a LEO or security guard on duty, and you’re keeping your attention focused on safety and security. If you go to an event like this as a spectator, clearly your main purpose is to watch the event and have a good time, not stay focused on the fact that your firearm is on display and accessible to hordes of strangers.


27 posted on 08/06/2008 9:57:15 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Incredible writing

Did the gun make an arrest, or did an officer arrest the gun?

Such stupidity


28 posted on 08/06/2008 10:20:46 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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The population needs to be educated, but educating while being arrested is probably counter-educational.

It seems to us that getting oneself arrested will leave a mark-whether or not one is cleared and the winner of a suit following. There will be a record, one which may preclude further self-protection based on the body of law-it doesn’t have to make sense, its just the law!

Carry openly in the Field, carry discretely in public. One purpose is to shoot game, protect oneself from 4 legged (or no legged varmints) and maybe a two legged varmint, the other is to protect oneself and loved ones from 2 legged predators while not marking oneself as the priority target.

Open carry may be legal, but certainly not, in my opinion, the best way to either protect oneself or educate the public. All the uniformed public saw was an armed man getting arrested, therefore they learned that carrying a gun is wrong. Don't have to make sense. Remember, there probably was at least one CCW guy present, walking away with his loved ones, truly safe and educated.

God Bless & MOLON LABE (if you can find it)

32 posted on 08/06/2008 10:46:01 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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“”It is very dangerous and very frightening to spectators down there,” Reiss said.”

I’d bet this Reiss character is “police.” In other words some jackboot bureaucrat thug with a badge that carries out orders from his local Marxist masters.

This is why I don’t like “police.” They are unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats with badges who don’t answer to the people and kiss the ass of their drooling Marxist bosses.

The best law is elected sheriffs, who are accountable to people via the ballot box.

The elected sheriff is law by the people, for the people and of the people.

If I were sheriff of this county, this ass Reiss would be arrested for theft of private property and liberty.

Police are Marxist pukes in the game for money, personal power and the opportunity to harass lawful citizens.


42 posted on 08/06/2008 6:38:14 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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