Posted on 08/07/2008 7:13:47 AM PDT by weegee
My point is that it protects against one of very many STDs. The odds are very high they will get something else just as nasty if they engage in the behavior that made them get the HPV vaccine.
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from 1977 onward, continued to use monkey kidneys possibly infected by the SV40 virus in its manufacturing process until oral polio vaccine was removed from the market as late as January 2000. "
Well your source is rather confused. Salk developed the killed polio vaccine that was administered by injection not orally. The process used to kill the polio virus was perfectly well suited for killing the SV40 virus. It was the Sabin oral vaccine that used live virus and that was discontinued in the US around 2000.
There are diseases and disorders at epidemic levels out there which don't exist in non-vaccinated populations. These secular humanist dorks can keep pimping these Malthusian vaccines all they want but people don't have to take it lying down. Hoodwinking little girls into this skankccine Frankenstein madness is over the top.
There are over 11,000 new cases of cervical cancer per year and almost 4,000 deaths.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/cervical/
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cervical-cancer/DS00167
It will only save millions of WOMEN from getting cancer over the course of over 180 years (presuming millions-plural- would be 2,000,0000 at the least, and doing the math) and it will prevent no cases of cancer in men because they aren’t getting the vaccine.
PAP tests are effective in detecting abnormalities when they are easily dealt with and before they turn into cancer and have none of the risk of the vaccine. If getting the vaccine lulls women into a false sense of security because of the misleading advertising, they will likely think that they no longer need PAP tests because they’re protected which puts them at higher risk than ever.
If the vaccine is not effective in preventing cervical cancer, and that has not been established, only projected, then the whole thing could backfire and end up with more cancer deaths in the long run.
Aren’t they promoting it as the *first* cancer vaccine?
It’s not the first. HepB has been around for a while and is also touted to prevent cancer.
This is interesting. There have been slightly over 11,000 new cases of cervical cancer per year for the past years among the total female population in the US. Not quite 4,000 die from it each year.
There have been over 9,000 adverse reactions from the vaccine, ONLY AMONG THOSE WHO HAVE RECEIVED IT. That's not even 9,000 among the total adult female population of the United States; that's just among those who've had the vaccine.
Totally unacceptable when PAP tests are so effective in detecting abnormalities well before they become cancer.
If the CDC and other medical organizations pushed for PAP testing like they're pushing for this vaccine, we'd likely see a bigger drop in new cervical cancer cases and deaths than with the vaccine with virtually none of the risk.
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They are going to have to track the young women who take this for MS, infertility, miscarriages, neurological problems, autoimmune disorders, and weird cancers over the next few decades. If they are still using monkey kidneys or parts of other animals to grow this, no way should anyone take it.
Kind of makes you wonder about the vaccine autism connection.
I know those who make it think it’s the thermisol but maybe there’s other factors that need to be looked at. Who knows how the human body could react to foreign proteins or virus from other animals. Allergies are only one kind of reaction.
Someone who has an adverse reaction right away would know for sure. But it's total BS when the nurse or physician at the doctor's office claim they know it's safe. They don't. They're making money out of it. They're making money out of the fear of young girls and their mothers.
Ask for a list of the ingredients of the vaccine and published reports on adverse reactions.
Another issue is whether the vaccine was even effective for that person. My allergist/immunologist said that vaccines are effective, or confer immunity, somewhere between 70% to 90% of the time.
That means that a portion of the population who received the vaccine are not immune like they think they are.
Which opens another can of worms for the HPV vaccine crowd. They’re presuming that it’s effective against the virus. So some girl thinks that she’s safe now and either is not careful about who she has sex with or about getting PAP tests or is just plain at risk when she thinks she isn’t, not to mention that she’s taking a risk with the side effects.
Refresh my memory. I don’t see anything about it in this article, but didn’t earlier information reveal that they never tested the vaccine on girls under 18?
I agree about how far I’d trust Erin Brockovich.
I’m a huge believer in vaccines- prevention is the best medicine. This one is made without human cultures, the same way that virtually all the insulin we use these days is made. The hype on the VAERS is just that - hype.
No matter how well we raise our boys and girls, we really can’t protect even our own children after a certain age.We certainly have no guarantee that the person they marry will be disease free.
He could have just waited for the Texas Department of Health Services to make the vaccine mandatory, the same way they did with the chicken pox vaccine, Hepatitis B (given to babies before they go home from the hospital the first time), and Hep A. They don’t need the Legislature’s permission to add vaccines to the mandatory list.
Instead, he used the opportunity to order TDHS to simplify the opt out process.
And it’s still available (virtually pushed) at the Federally funded clinics and paid for by the Vaccines for Children program for medicaid, SCHIP, and uninsured patients.
The legislature gave the Department of State Health Services the ability to make vaccines mandatory without any other oversight a long time ago.
I’m a physician. I ask. I’ve also known women to catch genital herpes on their honeymoons. It’s obvious when the outbreak follows the wedding day.
Sure, that can and does happen. Do you think most women are getting STDs on their honeymoons? (I’m not even sure why we are onto this topic and I’m too lazy to go back and see how we got here!)
As a Dr. I’m sure you’re also all too aware that many women are having multiple sex partners and that is what’s really fueling the prevalence of STDs. It’s interesting to me, that after years of our society being saturated with info on avoiding these diseases so many are still getting them.
I was always sad when my students talked about sex like it was just something else to do, like going to the movies.
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Smart men will get the vaccine. I have advised my young male relatives to get vaccinated. I have been reading the latest research papers and it is clear that the virus can take up residence in the throat which offers an environment similar to the vagina. The number of throat cancers attributable to the virus is exploding because of the Sexual Revolution 30 years ago. Three times as many men are affected as women. Although transmission by kissing has not been established, oral-to-genital transmission is a certainty. As for “false sense of security”, I would observe that dumb people who lack judgement will suffer disease disproportionately. Smart young people need to understand that they need to limit exchange of bodily fluids and the number of partners.
I guess you never met anyone who had polio. I knew a woman who was about 21 years older than I who was beginning at age 50 to get post polio syndrome. I wouldn't reccomend eliminating vaccination against polio even if it were erradicated, because there can be no assurance that every possible reservoir of it can be eliminated. Furthermore the entire gene sequence of polio has been published, so it's quite possible that terrorist organizations or hostile foreign governments might use that information to synthesize a polio virus as a biological weapon.
I do think that the only diseases for which vaccination should be mandatory are those serious diseases that are communicable by casual contact, aerosols, or contaminated surfaces. I don't think sexually transmitted diseases fit that definition. I think it ought to be up to parents to determine which additional vaccines their children receive.
Oops, I meant “genital-to-oral transmission is a certainty”. Embarrassing subject generates typos. BTW, the virus can spread even if warts are not visibly present. HPV has been contracted when people are wearing condoms when the base of the penis touches vaginal tissue. Lots of scary new info out there.
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